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    #11
    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Agreed.
    Unfortunately, the OP doesn't agree, and quotes a source that has deliberately been selective in its main sentences to make sure its believers lap up the belief that all migrants and all foreigners are evil.
    The study carried out was specifically about the links between migrants and crime, so the results showing that certain groups of migrants are more likely to cause crimes than others would kinda be critical in the discussion, as would the idea of trying to understand why a certain sub-section of "migrants" do this. Again, all lost in the headlines as it doesn't fit what the OP and the DM want to preach.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #12
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      The serious note is that the refugees (or "migrants" for the DM readers) from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are less likely to commit crimes, according to the report (not highlighted by the DM)
      The other note is that the report says it is those who are likely to be refused asylum who are the main ones committing the crimes.



      So, middle eastern migrants are not a problem. I find it really surprising that the DM hasn't actually highlighted that, instead lumping all "foreigners" in the "evil" bucket.
      Hmm so the fact they behave when they know they might stay is your defence? From the fascist Beeb:

      "Anyone who as a war refugee regards their chances of staying in Germany as good, will endeavour not to jeopardise those prospects by criminal offences," the authors of the study said, quoted by Die Welt newspaper.

      Reuters news agency quoted criminology expert and study author Christian Pfeiffer as saying: "The situation is completely different for those who find out as soon as they arrive that they are totally undesirable here. No chance of working, of staying here."

      In the Lower Saxony figures, 17% of crimes attributed to migrants were suspected of being committed by North Africans.

      This group, which makes up less than 1% of the state's migrant population
      , has little chance of achieving legal status in Germany.
      So if they believe they won't get residency means they commit significantly more crime?

      Hardly misrepresenting the situation is it. Migrants come, the crime rate goes up, its likely that those who are economic migrants and who have been found out will commit significant crime. Those that may gain citizenship behave themselves until they have citizenship.

      Therefore the daily mail are facist barstewards. Anyone who challenges uncontrolled immigration is obviously a moron. Wow what an analytic genius, how do I become one without getting a lobotomy?
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #13
        The Daily Mail reader continues to be a figure of fun. A flag-worshipping, foreigner-hating, Queen-loving bogeyman who was easy to mock because their time had long since passed. The Daily Mail reader is your racist uncle, ranting about migrants over his marmalade – deeply offensive but thankfully soon to perish from a rage-induced cardiac event. They are living fossils lumbering stupidly towards their own inevitable extinction, barely able to breathe the sweet air of freedom without going comically red in the face.
        ...
        When the British rolled out concentration camps in South Africa during the Boer War and burned farms and crops to the ground – something that resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of unarmed Africans, Boer women and half the entire population of Boer children – the Mail was on hand to put things in context. "Women," it gravely intoned, are "The Enemy". When fascism came to Britain, the Mail famously cried "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!" And its coverage of European affairs has also left much to be desired. Mussolini? "The greatest figure of our age". Hitler? "A great gentleman" and "a man of rare culture".

        Paraphrased...
        Seems about right...
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #14
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          Hmm so the fact they behave when they know they might stay is your defence? From the fascist Beeb:



          So if they believe they won't get residency means they commit significantly more crime?

          Hardly misrepresenting the situation is it. Migrants come, the crime rate goes up, its likely that those who are economic migrants and who have been found out will commit significant crime. Those that may gain citizenship behave themselves until they have citizenship.

          Therefore the daily mail are facist barstewards. Anyone who challenges uncontrolled immigration is obviously a moron. Wow what an analytic genius, how do I become one without getting a lobotomy?
          Wow, you are so full of BS, I don’t know where to start.

          Yes, the BBC, hated by the Mail and all its worshippers, makes the point correctly - those refugees/migrants/immigrants/foreigners who are not likely to be refused asylum are less likely to commit crime.
          Please highlight where in your holy newspaper that it mentions that.
          …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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            #15
            Originally posted by WTFH View Post
            Wow, you are so full of BS, I don’t know where to start.

            Yes, the BBC, hated by the Mail and all its worshippers, makes the point correctly - those refugees/migrants/immigrants/foreigners who are not likely to be refused asylum are less likely to commit crime.
            Please highlight where in your holy newspaper that it mentions that.
            however overall the crime rate has increased.

            yet you think its unfair to point this out.

            Oh Well
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #16
              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              however overall the crime rate has increased.

              yet you think its unfair to point this out.

              Oh Well
              The crime rate has increased among certain groups, not others, but you think that is unfair to point this out.
              …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                #17
                Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                The crime rate has increased among certain groups, not others, but you think that is unfair to point this out.
                no its perfectly ok to point it out. However just because some do not commit crimes because they have a reason not to does not excuse the others or pretend it is not happening. Your attacking me as being racially motivated to try and discredit the truth is pretty unpleasant but hey do what you want...

                Personally I believe the economic migration disguised as asylum seeking is attracting some very unpleasant people to make the journey, that is not to say all are unpleasant. However it makes sense a good percentage of economic migrants have a reason to reboot their life in a new country some of the reasons may not be just financial.

                Maybe we are just wasting our time with this ?:

                https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/w...heck-sc8rlmjnv

                as you can see our friends don't think much of it

                https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-c...-brexit-talks/


                Bunch of racists the UK Government!
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                  I wonder why vetran picked on an article about migrants in a foreign country rather than, say, one about the rise of facism in his own country: Five men and a woman arrested in 'National Action' raids | Daily Mail Online

                  It does make you think about his own politics...
                  You are in denial if you don't think there is a problem. I was at a dinner and one of the women there mentioned she was out in Blackburn town centre and was spat at by a Indian/Pakistani gentleman - nice eh. Then the other women mentioned the issues that they had from being followed by men of Indian/Pakistani origin to being made to feel uncomfortable in taxis by the driver. We mentioned that on our dog walk we walked with a lady that had also been followed on her way back to her car from work by a Indian/Pakistani man.

                  There is definitely a problem with some cultures assimilating.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
                    You are in denial if you don't think there is a problem. I was at a dinner and one of the women there mentioned she was out in Blackburn town centre and was spat at by a Indian/Pakistani gentleman - nice eh. Then the other women mentioned the issues that they had from being followed by men of Indian/Pakistani origin to being made to feel uncomfortable in taxis by the driver. We mentioned that on our dog walk we walked with a lady that had also been followed on her way back to her car from work by a Indian/Pakistani man.

                    There is definitely a problem with some cultures assimilating.
                    Plenty of sexist men from all cultures.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                      Plenty of sexist men from all cultures.

                      Yes but there are real problems with some cultures.

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