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Army trying to appeal to snowflakes

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    #11
    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Wiser or Lazier?
    Definitely not wiser and more lazier, most seem to in their own world and more concerned with either their Social Media, Gaming or being attached to their mobiles.
    In Scooter we trust

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
      Definitely not wiser and more lazier, most seem to in their own world and more concerned with either their Social Media, Gaming or being attached to their mobiles.
      And blaming older generations for taking all the good opportunities and leaving them with a ruined environment, economy. Some truth it in but not as much as they claim - at least they've got crypto now!
      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
        I think you missed my point - i wasn't ever suggesting soldiers were snowflakes.. Not ever.
        I have massive respect for each and every one of them.

        It's the fact that they've changed their recruitment campaign to try and appeal to the softer generation.
        I think it had to change, we're not in the 1970s and 80s any longer. The rather daft idea that 50% of kids should go to university has set up an entitlement view with the military being a very last choice for many.

        If I were to leave school now rather than 30-ish years ago when I did, I'd have to be pretty desperate to join the army knowing how badly it has been hit with repeated cuts, benefit cuts (pensions, pay, etc.), gross increases in detached tours (when I joined it was a max of one six month detachment in 24 months, it's far worse now), morale decreases through persistent overwork and so on.

        The description I heard when I joined was that the army was a toned but unflexed muscle ready to respond to anything. Right now, we're persistently flexed and have had every bit of cushioning fat, and more than a good bit of muscle itself chipped away now. Right now, we couldn't retake the Falklands if somehow the Argentinians captured it again, we can barely put together a fighting division of soldiers with less than 24 months of notice and the cuts just keep coming.

        You have to advertise the army to the youth of today who aren't blindly patriotic like those in the 1910s or 1930/40s. You have to show that there's an army career there for virtually anyone who can get through basic training, from those who want to throw themselves from perfectly good planes (my lifetime goal is to make takeoffs equal landings) to HR administrator, and everything inbetween. The former are almost self-recruiting, the latter just aren't there and need every bit of recruitment help they can get.

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          #14
          Meanwhile in Germany...
          "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
            Definitely not wiser and more lazier, most seem to in their own world and more concerned with either their Social Media, Gaming or being attached to their mobiles.
            Sadly I agree.

            I am not sure if it is that baby boomers have borrowed from the future and refuse to give it back. So what is the point for youngsters struggling for no return. Or if it is something else.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Jog On View Post
              Mind you this jumped out at me right away
              While these recruits have a limited access to weapons and cannot be sent on missions overseas
              Means that our cadets are probably a lot better trained than them and more adept.
              Last edited by The Spartan; 10 January 2018, 14:31.
              In Scooter we trust

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
                It's the fact that they've changed their recruitment campaign to try and appeal to the softer generation.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dark Black View Post
                  How it's done in the US....

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    My brother agrees they are. ex-1para. And still some debate in the family if he turned down the SAS and took the NATO role or joined the SAS and lied to us.
                    Hopefully he took the NATO role, its a better pension.
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                      Sadly I agree.

                      I am not sure if it is that baby boomers have borrowed from the future and refuse to give it back. So what is the point for youngsters struggling for no return. Or if it is something else.
                      well the housing is because their government (post millennium government) has overseen massive low level immigration while not building any houses. When I bought a house first time I had a choice of about 5 that were reasonable. My mates had a chance of getting a council house.

                      Now I am at the other end there are a few on the market at the top end. The ones at the bottom you need to earn £100k. To get a council house you need to be an orphan with 20 disabled kids.

                      Its not the Baby boomers that didn't build houses and welcomed immigration at 500k a year when the government didn't build any houses. So get stuffed snowflakes.
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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