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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post

    My original comment was in response to the title of the thread "The ageing population myth", where I was trying to point out that it wasn't a myth that the ageing population was costing the country more.
    Well xog's original figures would seem to dispute that somewhat. Although taking into account your limited intellect, I doubt you understood what it was that he was portraying.

    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    The fact is that a larger proportion of today's NHS budget is spent on a small group of people.
    Yeah. Bloody kids, and most of them haven't even started paying NI either. Never mind though, when WTFH's Party get into power you can always outlaw them! That'd save a few quid.
    Maybe you could even get that much-needed personality implant then?



    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    The title of this thread says that is a myth. My alternative facts say it isn't.
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    Through the advances of medical science we can cure more and more medical problems, help to prevent others and mitigate the impact of even more.
    Pick the average 70 year old up and shake them and they rattle due to the ever increasing number of daily tablets they're on for a variety of ailments including diabetes, blood pressure as well as more exotic stuff.

    Drugs are expensive - sometimes tens of thousands of pounds per year, per patient. Even drugs out of patent can get more, not less, expensive.
    Cancer drugs price rise 'costing NHS millions' - BBC News

    This means that we can keep people alive long enough to enjoy new and previously novel ailments such as Alzheimer's when they require massively increased social care (though they usually don't get it at the moment).

    As we know, 'You can't put a price on life' (TM). So, even though we do some rationing it's nowhere near enough to mitigate the increasing costs compared to the budget.

    As politicians might say, 'we need a conversation' about this. People need to make decisions about what they're prepared to pay for the NHS/medical treatment and what they expect in return. At the moment, most people want everything included but don't want to pay any more for it. So, what's it to be? An extra 20p in the pound tax or severely restricted services?

    Personally I think we should be looking at a European style partial insurance system. The NHS looks pretty medieval in many respects compared to the French system for instance.

    I know people who work in the NHS and the burdens placed upon them at the moment are not sustainable for much longer. Then again, I know people in education and you could say the same thing. They're also cutting the defence budget by the looks of it.

    So, what are our priorities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
    So, what are our priorities?
    More importantly, how are the priorities decided?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    We are constantly told that the pressures on the NHS are down to an elderly population...
    No, that's another Government lie to divert attention from the real predominant reason for pressures on the NHS - Uncontrolled immigration from Thirld World sh*tholes ( (c) Donald Trump )
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    No, that's another Government lie to divert attention from the real predominant reason for pressures on the NHS - Uncontrolled immigration from Thirld World sh*tholes ( (c) Donald Trump )
    Think you mean reducing pressures by working for the NHS ;-)

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    My wife was in hospital a few years ago and the surgical ward was full of dementia patients. There was nowhere else to put them.

    None of them needed to be in hospital but the problem was finding anywhere to discharge them to.

    They were a nightmare for staff and patients recovering from surgery. Slept all day, then like the walking dead at night.

    My wife couldn't get out of there fast enough.

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    Dementia will be cured in 10 years.

    We'll be the generation trapped in decrepit bodies but still posting tulip on CUK into our 90s with our 1 remaining working finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    this was actually quite interesting.

    10 charts that show why the NHS is in trouble - BBC News

    Graph 1 makes a mockery of accusations of vicious Tory cuts.
    Somebody doesn't understand how inflation works
    I wouldn't expect any other understanding of basic economics from a Tory


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    Quote Originally Posted by minestrone View Post
    Dementia will be cured in 10 years.
    It sounds like you've got it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggat View Post
    Somebody doesn't understand how inflation works
    I wouldn't expect any other understanding of basic economics from a Tory

    the figures on the graphs were adjusted for inflation. It says it at the bottom.

    Obviously voting for the MRLP or the greens means you can't read.

    If you read them we spend in real times far more than we did, we spend about average in the EU as a percentage. Lower than France & Germany but we still get worse outcomes.

    So no its not a cut. If I go into the boss and ask for a 20% pay rise and walk out with 5% and inflation is 3% you have not had a pay cut. Labour threw billions at the problem unfortunately we didn't have those billions, Labour borrowed them we are still paying them off.

    WTFH - The point made about a growing elderly population is significant as they are a significant part of the cost and its going to get much worse. Action is needed now to solve it.
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