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Different approach to all these gender threads

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    #11
    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    Interesting example seeing as there are several cases of female teachers being jailed for having relationships with their underage pupils. Why do you need to apply a gender to this example? Why not:
    This depends on if it's a legal or moral question.

    If we accept the age of consent as 16, then we have to accept that they haven't broken the law.

    Is it morally right though? Of course it's not and that's why certain professions have their own rules and breaking them will get you sacked and make you un-hireable.

    Same goes for doctors/patients etc.

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      #12
      Originally posted by vwdan View Post
      So you think a Headmaster should be able to approach the 16 year old girls in his care for a physical relationship?
      No because in that instance there is an abuse of trust - he is at that point employed to care for them.

      Once they leave his school then it is not illegal.

      The question then becomes 'Is it acceptable for a person who is significantly older than the other person to approach them with a view to instigating a physical relationship?'

      However then you start straying into the moral argument - which is not the same as a legal one.

      Frontender beat me to it!
      Last edited by original PM; 12 January 2018, 11:33. Reason: Goddamn it!

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        #13
        Originally posted by FrontEnder View Post
        This depends on if it's a legal or moral question.

        If we accept the age of consent as 16, then we have to accept that they haven't broken the law.

        Is it morally right though? Of course it's not and that's why certain professions have their own rules and breaking them will get you sacked and make you un-hireable.

        Same goes for doctors/patients etc.
        Agree 100% - when an older person is entrusted to be in a position of authority over younger people they should be bound by law not to abuse that privilege. Something along the lines of "age of consent laws do not apply in schools - anyone found having physical relationships between teacher/student will be considered illegal"

        Point I'm making is no gender specifics.
        "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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          #14
          Originally posted by original PM View Post
          No because in that instance there is an abuse of trust - he is at that point employed to care for them.

          Once they leave his school then it is not illegal.

          The question then becomes 'Is it acceptable for a person who is significantly older than the other person to approach them with a view to instigating a physical relationship?'

          However then you start straying into the moral argument - which is not the same as a legal one.

          Frontender beat me to it!
          So your original assertion was incorrect.....? It's almost like, perhaps, it's not quite that simple.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
            First it was the jews.
            Then blacks
            Then it was gays
            Now it's women.

            When will it be time for white heterosexual men? #menhavefeelingstoo
            What about people with poor betting history?

            Anyway now it is transgender....

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              #16
              Originally posted by vwdan View Post
              So your original assertion was incorrect.....? It's almost like, perhaps, it's not quite that simple.
              Not really still pretty simple in that when you are being paid etc you are expected to act professionally which does not involve hitting on people.

              As long as you obey the second and third rules - the person being approached has the right to say No and the approacher has to respect that.

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