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    Different approach to all these gender threads

    was discussing all this feminist vs mens rights stuff and #metoo etc with a mate over xmas and we tried an experiment that was interesting.

    When discussing what's right or wrong or who should/shouldn't do what - take the gender out of it, eg:

    Do [people] have the right to hit on other [people]?

    There you go - equality made simple
    "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

    #2
    Yep, removing all historical and social context does tend to make things very easy.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Jog On View Post
      was discussing all this feminist vs mens rights stuff and #metoo etc with a mate over xmas and we tried an experiment that was interesting.

      When discussing what's right or wrong or who should/shouldn't do what - take the gender out of it, eg:

      Do [people] have the right to hit on other [people]?

      There you go - equality made simple
      Yes indeed - any person over the age of consent should be able to approach any other person of the age of consent with a view to staring a physical relationship.

      All parties also have the right to say no and expect that right to be respected.

      And yes as you say it really is that simple.

      If you believe for some reason that only certain people are allowed to do this then you are a bigoted idiot.

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        #4
        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        ...bigoted idiot.
        Oy. Only mods are allowed to use that phrase.
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #5
          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
          Oy. Only mods are allowed to use that phrase.
          I'm available for a small (ish) fee!

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            #6
            Originally posted by original PM View Post
            Yes indeed - any person over the age of consent should be able to approach any other person of the age of consent with a view to staring a physical relationship.
            So you think a Headmaster should be able to approach the 16 year old girls in his care for a physical relationship?

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              #7
              Originally posted by vwdan View Post
              Yep, removing all historical and social context does tend to make things very easy.
              And essential if the word equality is to be used.

              Payback, reparations and gender privelidge is a different conversation. Maybe the (justified) anger can be addressed appropriately then
              "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                #8
                Originally posted by vwdan View Post
                So you think a Headmaster should be able to approach the 16 year old girls in his care for a physical relationship?
                Interesting example seeing as there are several cases of female teachers being jailed for having relationships with their underage pupils. Why do you need to apply a gender to this example? Why not:

                So you think a Head teacher should be able to approach the 16 year old pupils in their care for a physical relationship?
                "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jog On View Post
                  was discussing all this feminist vs mens rights stuff and #metoo etc with a mate over xmas and we tried an experiment that was interesting.

                  When discussing what's right or wrong or who should/shouldn't do what - take the gender out of it, eg:

                  Do [people] have the right to hit on other [people]?

                  There you go - equality made simple
                  Funnily enough, that's roughly what I said in the other thread...

                  Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                  People should be allowed to "hit on" each other, but if you are going to do it, you must respect the right of the other person to reject your advances.

                  If you can't show that respect, then no, you shouldn't have the right.
                  …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                    #10
                    First it was the jews.
                    Then blacks
                    Then it was gays
                    Now it's women.

                    When will it be time for white heterosexual men? #menhavefeelingstoo
                    What happens in General, stays in General.
                    You know what they say about assumptions!

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