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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper View Post
    However they only have 51%. They needed 60%....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    However they only have 51%. They needed 60%....
    ....for now....

    “The Dems (Democrats) just want illegal immigrants to pour into our nation unchecked. If stalemate continues, Republicans should go to 51 percent (Nuclear Option) and vote on real, long term budget,” Trump said on Twitter.
    Trump: Senate should change rules if shutdown stalemate continues | Reuters

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    Can Trump do that? Sounds more like another of his fantasies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Can Trump do that? Sounds more like another of his fantasies?
    The Senate has to approve the option by a simple majority.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

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    Then: "Obama & the Democrats want this shutdown. They think it helps their electoral prospects for 2014. Don’t believe!" (Via Twitter, Oct. 1, 2013)

    Now: "Shutdown coming? We need more Republican victories in 2018!" (Via Twitter, Friday)

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    Then: “'Here’s the truth, the gov't doesn’t shutdown.' ... All essential services continue. Don't believe lies." (Via Twitter, Sept. 23, 2013)

    Now: "A government shutdown will be devastating to our military ... something the Dems care very little about!" (Via Twitter, Thursday)

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    Then: "Stocks rose yesterday during the first day of government shutdown. Markets like being left alone for a day." (Via Twitter, Oct. 2, 2013)


    Now: "It also means jobs. You see what's happening with respect to jobs. ... So our tax cuts and our tax reform has turned out to be far greater than anybody ever anticipated, and I'm sure the Democrats would like to blunt that by shutting down government." (Remarks to reporters at the Pentagon Thursday)

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    Then: "Congratulations to @SpeakerBoehner on standing strong and tying government shutdown to defunding ObamaCare." (Via Twitter, Sept. 20, 2013)

    Now: "The Democrats want to shut down the Government over Amnesty for all and Border Security." (Via Twitter, Tuesday)

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    There is another good statement but it cannot be verifiied:

    “A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak”

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlake View Post
    The Senate has to approve the option by a simple majority.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option
    And Republican Senators have dismissed this, because they know it works both ways. At some point, the Dems will hold the Senate (probably later this year ).

    More unproductive tweeting from Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    There is another good statement but it cannot be verifiied:
    It's paraphrasing several things that Trump said / wrote during the shutdown.

    For example, he said "Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the President’s the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room, and he’s got to lead. And he doesn’t do that, he doesn’t like doing that, that’s not his strength. And that’s why you have this horrible situation going on in Washington. It’s a very, very bad thing and it’s very embarrassing worldwide" which is broadly along the same lines as the summary quoted.



    He also said "Well, very simply, you have to get everybody in a room. You have to be a leader. The president has to lead. He’s got to get [the Speaker of the House] and everybody else in a room, and they have to make a deal. You have to be nice, and be angry, and be wild, and cajole, and do all sorts of things. But you have to get a deal." on Fox News during the 2013 shutdown.

    And tweeted "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    However they only have 51%. They needed 60%....
    And four Republican Senators voted against... whilst five Democrat Senators voted for.

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    ... and it's over (until next time).

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