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    US government closing (which ironically will probably help the US economy).

    Trump is too divisive. (CUK understatement of the year)

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    Doesn't this happen quite regularly in the USA, it's not something only Trump has overseen. They just throw out their toys until they get agreement on whose pockets the trillions from the magic money tree are going to line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Doesn't this happen quite regularly in the USA, it's not something only Trump has overseen. They just throw out their toys until they get agreement on whose pockets the trillions from the magic money tree are going to line.

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    None of the numbers seem to be going down.
    Not regularly, but occasionally. The last one was 2013. I think the last one with one party holding all offices was back in the late 70s when Carter was president (and it was about abortions).

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    Very interesting. Trump is not someone who compromises. If the opposition were to compromise Trump will go round the country jeering and scoffing at the Democrats, and writing insulting tweets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Very interesting. Trump is not someone who compromises. If the opposition were to compromise Trump will go round the country jeering and scoffing at the Democrats, and writing insulting tweets.

    He isn't someone that likes to appear to have compromised, which is different. What, substantively, has changed in US gov't policy over the last year? There's a lot of continuity. There always is. He'll cut a deal, but he'll speak a ton of crap on Twatter before doing so, because he's just that sort of numpty. This time, it's as much the Dems that don't want to appear to have compromised (DACA) as the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Doesn't this happen quite regularly in the USA, it's not something only Trump has overseen. They just throw out their toys until they get agreement on whose pockets the trillions from the magic money tree are going to line.

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    None of the numbers seem to be going down.
    I agree. However in previous times there were presidents who were not as divisive.

    I hope you are right and it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Not regularly, but occasionally. The last one was 2013. I think the last one with one party holding all offices was back in the late 70s when Carter was president (and it was about abortions).
    The first shutdown was 1980, because Carter's AG in 79 said that when there was a funding gap then government had to shut down.

    There's never been a shutdown when the same party controlled House, Senate and White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    The first shutdown was 1980, because Carter's AG in 79 said that when there was a funding gap then government had to shut down.

    There's never been a shutdown when the same party controlled House, Senate and White House.
    There's an element of semantics to this. Appropriations lapsed several times in the 1970s, some of which resulted in partial shutdowns. Lapses in the late 1970s occurred with one party in office (Dems). Even today, the number of employees/functions that are impacted varies dramatically across government (quite a lot of gov't continues to function). But, yes, from the 80s onwards the impacts were greater.

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    Presumably this is the point where when he was a 'business man', he just declared bankruptcy and walked away from it all
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