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[Jog On]

This is going to upset some people:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...2-gas-pipeline

[northernladyuk]

Have you read it? I had to download the word doc version which says this:



Very carefully worded throughout with language like "suggests, alleged". Nothing concrete at all and some of the incidents point to ISIS having and using chemical weapons. This document is proof that there is no proof!

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to 'question more'.

Anyway - this is a pointless conversation and we're not going to agree.

You have selectively quoted an evaluation of some later events, but it is good that you accept the bona fides of the document, when you begin, 'The document is proof that...'

So here are the sections that I pointed out, which refer to other events:

Talmenes, Idlib governorate, 21 April 2014

54. The Leadership Panel examined the existing information regarding the two
impact locations in Talmenes on 21 April 2014. There is sufficient information for
the Panel to conclude that the incident at impact location No. 2 was caused by a
Syrian Arab Armed Forces helicopter dropping a device causing damage to the
structure of a concrete block building and was followed by the release of a toxic
substance that affected the population.

55. This conclusion was based on the following:
• Ahrar al-Sham and the Nusrah Front had a heavy presence around Talmenes.
Both were said to have been in control of the town. Talmenes was subject to
regular artillery and air force attacks around and on 21 April 2014. On that day
there was an ongoing battle between government forces and armed opposition
groups, as well as the Nusrah Front, around the two military bases at Wadi
Deif and Hamidiyah, both of which are in close proximity to Talmenes.
• Witnesses stated that the release of toxic chemicals followed the explosion of a
barrel bomb dropped from an aircraft.
• Both the Government and the armed opposition groups do not deny that
chlorine was used in Talmenes on 21 April 2014.
• The Government stated that the impact (location No. 2) was caused by a landbased
projectile launched by an armed opposition group. The structural
damage was not found to be consistent with this.
• Only one of the two alleged impact sites (location No. 2) has been found
plausible by the Mechanism.
• When the incident occurred, the Government had lost control of six airbases,
including Taftanaz airbase (Idlib governorate). The Government informed the
Mechanism that 15 helicopters had been left behind at Taftanaz airbase, 9 of
which had been deemed operational.
• The Leadership Panel reviewed all the information gathered and found no
evidence that armed opposition groups in Talmenes had been operating a
helicopter at the time and location of the incident.
• While the exact number of patients could not be definitively established, it is
obvious that large numbers of people were affected by toxic chemicals.

Sarmin, Idlib governorate, 16 March 2015
56. The Leadership Panel examined the existing information regarding the two
impact locations in Sarmin on 16 March 2015. There is sufficient information for
the Panel to conclude that the incident at impact location No. 2 was caused by a
Syrian Arab Armed Forces helicopter dropping a device that hit the house and was
followed by the release of a toxic substance, matching the characteristics of

chlorine, that was fatal to all six occupants. The remnants of the device are
consistent with the construction of a barrel bomb.

57. This conclusion was based on the following:
 Witnesses confirmed that at least one helicopter flew over Sarmin at the time
of the incident.
 Expert and forensic analyses support witness statements that a device or
“barrel bomb” dropped from a helicopter impacted through the ventilation
shaft of a house (impact location No. 2) inhabited at the time by a family of
six. The damage was consistent with the kinetic effect of a device or barrel
bomb falling from high altitude rather than the explosion or detonation of any
high explosive.
 Multiple videos of location No. 2 show HCFC gas canisters inside the house,
with a purple substance on the floor.
 The Government indicated that there had been no Syrian Arab Armed Forces
flights on 16 March 2015, but did not provide any supporting information.
However, the Mechanism obtained information from other sources that
corroborates witness statements of Syrian Arab Armed Forces helicopter flights
on the date and at the time of the incident.
 When the incident occurred, the Government had lost control of six airbases,
including Taftanaz airbase (Idlib governorate). The Government informed the
Mechanism that 15 helicopters had been left behind at Taftanaz airbase, 9 of
which had been deemed operational.
 The Leadership Panel reviewed all the information gathered and found no
evidence that armed opposition groups in Sarmin had been operating a
helicopter at the time and location of the incident.

I would be interested to hear your propagandist squirming.

[Jog On]

You have selectively quoted an evaluation of some later events, but it is good that you accept the bona fides of the document, when you begin, 'The document is proof that...'

So here are the sections that I pointed out, which refer to other events:







I would be interested to hear your propagandist squirming.

White helmets?

[northernladyuk]

White helmets?

Is that the squirm?

[tarbera]

White helmets?

The white helmets have now been sent in training courses to improve their ability to fake a chemical strike



Yes yes of course, knowing the world is watching, let's attack a target of zero military advantage with chemicals - Jesus's let's write £350 million on a bus for the gullible feckers also

[northernladyuk]

The white helmets have now been sent in training courses to improve their ability to fake a chemical strike



Yes yes of course, knowing the world is watching, let's attack a target of zero military advantage with chemicals - Jesus's let's write £350 million on a bus for the gullible feckers also

That's the spirit Comrade! Down with the Yankee United Nations fake news report!

[tarbera]

That's the spirit Comrade! Down with the Yankee United Nations fake news report!

Indeed

You can get the formula on amazon


https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=acyCA_1522261746

[northernladyuk]

The white helmets have now been sent in training courses to improve their ability to fake a chemical strike



Yes yes of course, knowing the world is watching, let's attack a target of zero military advantage with chemicals - Jesus's let's write £350 million on a bus for the gullible feckers also

Indeed

You can get the formula on amazon


https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=acyCA_1522261746

Can you show me proof (not Russian / fake news) that white helmets have now been sent on training courses to improve their ability to fake a chemical strike?

[AtW]

Can you show me proof (not Russian / fake news) that white helmets have now been sent on training courses to improve their ability to fake a chemical strike?

It's made up fake by Russia that white helmets are faking childs death, because as well all know it Russian airstrikes are super precise and they never kill babies, ever.

[northernladyuk]

It's made up fake by Russia that white helmets are faking childs death, because as well all know it Russian airstrikes are super precise and they never kill babies, ever.

I am still waiting for a proper response to the UN report from the Chemical Ali Brigade.