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    Quote Originally Posted by Jog On View Post
    Typical white male privilege speaking there.

    They're on a bout thin privilege as well now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    Yet when Trump does that, he's a racist, protectionist moron. Hmmm.

    Funny lot these lefties, like how they advocate freedom of speech, so long as they agree with what you say.
    Trump wants to stop US companies from outsourcing. He has said that minimum wages are too high, and that business owners should pay less tax.
    He wants to tax imports. He wants to scrap free trade deals. His concerns are all about company profits.
    Problem is, if he taxes raw materials, then it pushes up the prices for the local companies.

    I don't believe that Corbyn has called for tariffs to be applied to foreign-produced goods and raw materials, and he's not calling for the scrapping of free trade deals, he's also not complained about lowering minimum wages or decreasing taxes on the top 1% of earners. His concerns are about workers and their rights.
    But apart from that, there's lots of similarities. Both have had talks with terrorists, but only Corbyn gets lambasted for that. Both think NATO needs to be looked at again (for different reasons).
    I guess the biggest similarity is that both are incapable of running a country successfully. Corbyn's not had the chance to prove that yet, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    ... he's a racist, protectionist moron. Hmmm....
    To be fair there are people, even within the Labour party who call Corbyn that.
    Hmm. I'm beginning to suspect that you need to find all the packing the computer came in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Trump wants to stop US companies from outsourcing. He has said that minimum wages are too high, and that business owners should pay less tax.
    He wants to tax imports. He wants to scrap free trade deals. His concerns are all about company profits.
    Problem is, if he taxes raw materials, then it pushes up the prices for the local companies.

    I don't believe that Corbyn has called for tariffs to be applied to foreign-produced goods and raw materials, and he's not calling for the scrapping of free trade deals, he's also not complained about lowering minimum wages or decreasing taxes on the top 1% of earners. His concerns are about workers and their rights.
    But apart from that, there's lots of similarities. Both have had talks with terrorists, but only Corbyn gets lambasted for that. Both think NATO needs to be looked at again (for different reasons).
    I guess the biggest similarity is that both are incapable of running a country successfully. Corbyn's not had the chance to prove that yet, though.
    Really? Trump got called out on that.
    He also got called out on his relationship with Putin. He replied with a pretty damning brief about the Clintons and their relationship to Putin's administration.

    People don't like The Donald™ because he does what he said he'll do and says it as it is. In the modern era, you're not meant to offend people and the world's gone soft and too tolerant because of that.
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    Public contracts already go to U.K. companies *where possible*. Where they don’t, perhaps UK companies should be more competitive on price or quality.
    A foreign company may provide a lower bid because they are more experienced and efficient but the upfront cost is not the real cost. Giving the contract to a UK company has many benefits to our economy - more employment for British workers, less need for welfare, more skill and experience gained by our workforce, more taxes received and the potential to grow more efficient and competitive businesses.

    I am certainly not in favour of supporting very inefficient UK companies that are unlikely to improve but I wonder if all the above factors are taken into account when decisions are made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Trump wants to stop US companies from outsourcing. He has said that minimum wages are too high, and that business owners should pay less tax.
    He wants to tax imports. He wants to scrap free trade deals. His concerns are all about company profits.
    Problem is, if he taxes raw materials, then it pushes up the prices for the local companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-jeremy-corbyn

    Going back to what Labour used to be in the 70s, a party that put British workers first!
    So presumably you think that other countries should avoid buying British where possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    A foreign company may provide a lower bid because they are more experienced and efficient but the upfront cost is not the real cost. Giving the contract to a UK company has many benefits to our economy - more employment for British workers, less need for welfare, more skill and experience gained by our workforce, more taxes received and the potential to grow more efficient and competitive businesses.

    I am certainly not in favour of supporting very inefficient UK companies that are unlikely to improve but I wonder if all the above factors are taken into account when decisions are made.
    Probably not.

    Government departments need to fight to justify their budget spend and to “prove” they have received the best value for money that they can. The trade off is that public services overall may cost more.

    That’s probably a trade off that many people would be prepared to make and perhaps the pendulum has swung too far towards cheapness over local - much of that can be squarely laid at the Tories with their “market forces” philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-jeremy-corbyn

    Going back to what Labour used to be in the 70s, a party that put British workers first!
    Most British workers spent the 70s gathered round a brazier outside a state-owned factory which was losing money on everything it made.
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    To be fair there are people, even within the Labour party who call Corbyn that.
    Bloody Corbyn, inventing anti-Semitism.

    We should go back to the good old days before anti-Semitism existed in the labour party, when Margaret Hodge could cheer the physical manhandling and removal of a jewish holocaust survivor from the party conference.
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