Jezzy resigns

[vetran]

actually lets be honest America & the UK didn't make the mess in Israel. They tried to solve a different issue after the Arab states started complaining that Jewish landowners 'stole land' . There seems to be international agreement on this.

Is it true that Israel stole Palestinian land?

https://www.quora.com/How-much-land-...ritish-mandate

Indeed the cost of land sold to the jews was vastly inflated.

Little did they know that a rather unpleasant feeling against jews growing across Europe fanned by the Germans, Italians & French would make this even more difficult. The Jewish people quite rightly wanted a homeland they felt safe in, the UN gave it to them.

So the history goes.

The holy land according to the oldest records belonged to the jews. They were driven out by conquerors (repeatedly). They came back and bought the land legally and at an inflated price. After the Arab nations tried to take the lands back by force

“I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all”

the UN granted Israel the areas where they owned the majority of land.

Note the land is now productive despite it originally being dessert & swamp.

I feel no guilt for the establishment of the state of israel!

[Yorkie62]

Just for the sake of trying to provide balance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

[sasguru]

My approach to Russia is the same as Jezza and Donald's - I'm sure we can get on cordially and not have legions of troops and bombs and WMDs pointing at each other while engaged in proxy wars that could spill over into something worse. Having grown up in the 1980s and gone through all the nuclear threat stuff - then see that all go away when the Berlin wall came down and think it was behind us and we'd progressed/evolved as a species - just to see it back again just because people who control our politicians really really f**cking want Syria makes me feel compelled to speak out on it. That is why I am a 'useful idiot'/Russian troll etc etc.

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You may have forgotten that the wall came down because Reagan played hard ball and the USSR could not keep up economically while spending all their money on arms.
So yeah let's appease the Russians, like Trump and Farage and Arron Banks do (yes and their equally stupid far-left wing counterparts Jezza and Donald) while they wage cyberwar and try to affect the outcome of our elections.

Yes you are indeed a useful idiot.

[Jog On]

You may have forgotten that the wall came down because Reagan played hard ball and the USSR could not keep up economically while spending all their money on arms.
So yeah let's appease the Russians, like Trump and Farage and Arron Banks do (yes and their equally stupid far-left wing counterparts Jezza and Donald) while they wage cyberwar and try to affect the outcome of our elections.

Yes you are indeed a useful idiot.

You keep telling yourself that snowflake. Who said anything about appeasing them? I'll take - not being at war with them or on the brink of it. Apparently that's blasphemy around here...

[DoctorStrangelove]

You needed to be around in 1962 to see people really tulipting themselves for fear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

The 1980s, not so much.

[Bean]

You may have forgotten that the wall came down because Reagan played hard ball and the USSR could not keep up economically while spending all their money on arms.
So yeah let's appease the Russians, like Trump and Farage and Arron Banks do (yes and their equally stupid far-left wing counterparts Jezza and Donald) while they wage cyberwar and try to affect the outcome of our elections.

Yes you are indeed a useful idiot.

Didn't 'the west', especially the CIA organisation, have their hands directly involved in regime change, in multiple countries?
(E.g. Iran, Guatemala)

Should 'the west' be held to different standards, to Russia?

[BlasterBates]

Note the land is now productive despite it originally being dessert & swamp.

Is that not productive as well ?

[vetran]

Is that not productive as well ?

So Dubai copied Israel's building principles? I'm sure Ben Gurion will be flattered.

Israel bought swamp & Desert and turned it productive 60+ years ago.

[BlasterBates]

So Dubai copied Israel's building principles? I'm sure Ben Gurion will be flattered.

Israel bought swamp & Desert and turned it productive 60+ years ago.

Have you got proof that Israel was much better than Dubai 60 years ago or are you making stuff up.

[vetran]

Have you got proof that Israel was much better than Dubai 60 years ago or are you making stuff up.

only pictures of desert versus 1960 telaviv. probably fake news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UQJmScf8kc