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    #21
    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Intelligence is not a guarantee of success but, in absence a time machine that can see the future, it's one good criteria to use.
    Excelling at chess requires intelligence, logic, hard work, persistence, drive, ambition, a competitive edge and the support of his parents. Sounds like a pretty good combination to me.

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      #22
      Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
      Excelling at chess requires intelligence, logic, hard work, persistence, drive, ambition, a competitive edge and the support of his parents. Sounds like a pretty good combination to me.
      Qualities you won't find in the usual CUK single-issue whiners.
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #23
        Immigrants in the UK have high education levels

        ...what we actually need to do is boot out the thick indigenous population.

        I'm alright Jack

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          #24
          Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
          Immigrants in the UK have high education levels

          ...what we actually need to do is boot out the thick indigenous population.

          Cunningly, they’ve thought of that and voted to remove their right to freedom of movement, so there’s nowhere we can boot them out to.

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            #25
            These arguments are always so black and white, immigration good, immigration bad. Not all immigrants are the same! Some groups do well, some don't:

            The employment rate (the proportion of people aged from 16 to 64 years who were in work) was 81.9% for EU nationals, higher than that for UK nationals (75.6%) and higher than that for non-EU nationals (63.0%)
            https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentand...market/may2018

            "EU nationals" and "Non EU nationals" are very blanket terms as well, you will find big differences depending on country of origin and even where in that country they come from. "UK nationals" also includes many that migration has given us in the the last few decades, also with some very significant variations in net contribution.

            Forget where people are from, what race/colour etc. Leaving aside the separate issue of asylum, we should focus on the main point -we should not be taking in anyone at all who is not a significant asset to our economy.
            Last edited by xoggoth; 12 August 2018, 15:43.
            bloggoth

            If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
            John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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              #26
              Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
              These arguments are always so black and white, immigration good, immigration bad. Not all immigrants are the same! Some groups do well, some don't:



              https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentand...market/may2018

              "EU nationals" and "Non EU nationals" are very blanket terms as well, you will find big differences depending on country of origin and even where in that country they come from. "UK nationals" also includes many that migration has given us in the the last few decades, also with some very significant variations in net contribution.

              Forget where people are from, what race/colour etc. Leaving aside the separate issue of asylum, we should focus on the main point -we should not be taking in anyone at all who is not a significant asset to our economy.
              “Significant asset”. Difficult to define in any meaningful way, and will mean different things to different people.

              And only to the economy? Will this mean more of declining visas for visiting museum curators?

              https://www.museumsassociation.org/m...s-denied-visas

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                #27
                “Significant asset”. Difficult to define in any meaningful way, and will mean different things to different people.
                True, everything is subjective, but we need to start somewhere. At least we all ought to be able to agree that those who have little prospect of continuous employment, have significant health problems or criminal records, who need social housing or who are not prepared to accept the core principles of our society, should in no way be allowed residence.

                It beats me why some are called racist for requiring perfectly reasonable checks. Some time ago Farage was denounced as racist for asking for HIV checks on those from some African countries even though they account for 34% of those diagnosed and are far more costly to treat than others due to late diagnosis. Why should UK citizens have to pick up this cost?

                And cost is only one effect of poor migration control. One thing that "liberals" people fail to grasp is that lax migration controls disproportionately affect minorities of the same ethnicity in two ways - 1) directly in that they themselves are likely to be the main victims - people make friends, "friends" and enemies in their own group and 2) Indirectly in that significant problems in any group inevitably raises prejudice against them all and affects the decent, useful people among them.

                If we really want to reduce racism one of the the best things we can do is have stricter immigration controls.
                Last edited by xoggoth; 12 August 2018, 19:49.
                bloggoth

                If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                  #28
                  The problem is that the political group most enthusiastic about immigration, the left also want those immigrants to be a state-dependent politically malleable voting bloc. That is, economically useless - hence the antipathy towards independent and productive immigrants such as Jews and Poles.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    Immigrants in the UK have high education levels

                    ...what we actually need to do is boot out the thick indigenous population.



                    Well Ass,NAT, Darmy & You are out!

                    getting there! not sure who we kick out next after the arrogant feckwits!
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #30
                      Steve Bannon's dream team

                      I was wondering what those "Tommy" like comments from Boris were all about, but it does appear as if Bannon is pairing them up as a new nationalist movement, sort of a mixture of Nationalism and Socialism.

                      I'm alright Jack

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