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    Default 80% of population growth from immigration

    https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/452

    The population of the UK rose by a total of 6.6 million between 2000 and 2016. The latest research shows that just over 80% of this increase was due to immigration - that is to say new immigrants and their UK-born children.
    Blimey the ONS said 60%
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    Obsessed with immigration are we?
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    I have news for you... 100% of the British Isles population growth is the result of immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    I have news for you... 100% of the British Isles population growth is the result of immigration.
    not quite that many in the last 15 years. Just 12%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Obsessed with immigration are we?
    no obsessed with the effects of uncontrolled immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    no obsessed with the effects of uncontrolled immigration.
    If only there was someone or some group other than the Home Secretary and UK Government that we could blame for that, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    If only there was someone or some group other than the Home Secretary and UK Government that we could blame for that, eh?
    maybe we could blame those unwilling to discuss it as well? People should be outraged and push their MPs.

    But yes the Government had a big part of it. Once freedom of movement ends they won't be able to hide the other migration behind it. I suspect most people would like to see pre 1997 levels with little or no net migration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    maybe we could blame those unwilling to discuss it as well? People should be outraged and push their MPs.

    But yes the Government had a big part of it. Once freedom of movement ends they won't be able to hide the other migration behind it. I suspect most people would like to see pre 1997 levels with little or no net migration.
    Don't worry, after the tulip storm that is no-deal B-word hits, UK will become undesirable location.

    The smart and able (both Brits and migrants) will start looking elsewhere, the poor and desperate will keep coming.

    The net migration will "improve". The overall "quality" of the population, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    maybe we could blame those unwilling to discuss it as well? People should be outraged and push their MPs.

    But yes the Government had a big part of it. Once freedom of movement ends they won't be able to hide the other migration behind it. I suspect most people would like to see pre 1997 levels with little or no net migration.
    But MigrationWatch (unless they change how they make up their numbers) will still claim that immigration is out of control, because anyone who is born to a mother who migrated to the UK is seen as an immigrant by them, as is anyone who is of British origin and citizenship but born outside the UK

    According to the right-wing think tank:
    If your mother is Irish, but you were born in the UK, you're an immigrant.
    If your British parents were temporarily working in Australia when you were born, you're an immigrant
    If your British parents were serving in the military outside the UK when you were born, you're an immigrant.
    If your British mother was born in Gibraltar, you're an immigrant.
    If your mother was not born in the UK, you are an immigrant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    But MigrationWatch (unless they change how they make up their numbers) will still claim that immigration is out of control, because anyone who is born to a mother who migrated to the UK is seen as an immigrant by them, as is anyone who is of British origin and citizenship but born outside the UK

    According to the right-wing think tank:
    If your mother is Irish, but you were born in the UK, you're an immigrant.
    If your British parents were temporarily working in Australia when you were born, you're an immigrant
    If your British parents were serving in the military outside the UK when you were born, you're an immigrant.
    If your British mother was born in Gibraltar, you're an immigrant.
    If your mother was not born in the UK, you are an immigrant.
    Is everyone and every news outlet, that uses the term '2nd generation immigrant' - right wing?, as it seems to be prevalent...
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