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    #11
    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    Is the country's official name not just Ireland?

    A bit like Sudan and South Sudan.
    Yes -

    Ireland - Wikipedia

    "Politically, Ireland is divided between the Republic of Ireland (officially named Ireland), which covers five-sixths of the island, and Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom."

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      #12
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      Well that is what its called. Southern Ireland seems a bit confrontational like South Korea. Ireland is the Island and calling it that seems a bit offensive to the North as well as confusing.



      I could call it the Republic of Ireland but that seems like a communist state.

      No I suspect you are the expert in very odd practice at least according to NLyUK.
      The country is called 'Éire' in the Irish language and Ireland in the English language. You don't say 'Espana' when speaking English so why say 'Eire'? The island is also called 'Éire' in the Irish language and 'Ireland' in English, so using the term 'Éire' doesn't help distinguish between the country and the island.

      Where there is confusion between the state of Ireland and the island of Ireland, the term 'Republic of Ireland' clarifies (this is the term used in the UK's Ireland Act of 1949 and is also seen sometimes on official government documentation). The rather clumsy term 'island of Ireland' is the equivalent term to clarify.

      Southern Ireland was a short lived country in the 1920s, so it is incorrect to use the term in the contemporary context. The Irish Republic is also a historical term, referring to a short lived French revolutionary backed administration and then later the revolutionary state declared in 1916, which was only recognised internationally by the USSR. The term is probably still used by some dissident republicans who don't accept the legitimacy of the Anglo Irish treaty partitioning Ireland.

      So in summary, stick to 'Ireland' or the ' Republic of Ireland' if you want to be accurate.

      If you are worried that 'Ireland' will offend some people in Northern Ireland, you can equalise this by using the term 'Northern Ireland' to people from the Republic of Ireland. Some will be offended (e.g. because the northernmost point in the island of Ireland is in the Republic), but it's the accurate term. The term 'Ulster' is incorrect for 'Northern Ireland' as Ulster contains three counties from the Republic. The term 'six counties' is a republican term used to denote illegitimacy for Northern Ireland. The term 'twenty-six counties' is occasionally used by republicans to denote illegitimacy for the Republic of Ireland.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
        Why do you call Ireland 'Eire'? It's like saying 'Espana' instead of Spain. It's a very odd practice.
        To be fair I grew up calling it Eire - I think it even had that on maps.

        Originally posted by TwoWolves View Post
        I notice that the British press and those who wish the b-word be gone are also studiously ignoring the "Yellow Jacket" protests in France as if it has nothing to do with the project.
        Rubbish. It has been all over the Times and the Sunday Times since it began. It was even referenced on Have I Got News For You last Friday.
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #14
          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
          To be fair I grew up calling it Eire - I think it even had that on maps.
          That is why I am being nice. Just trying to educate.

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            #15
            Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
            Last night split beer over my laptop. And it was my (nearly full) last bottle.

            Oh yeah, my laptop was damaged as well. But got a new one in the morning.
            Tut tut tut.

            If you’re going to drink while in charge of a computer this is bound to happen. Have you thought about giving up alcohol, it’s one of the devils tools you know?
            What happens in General, stays in General.
            You know what they say about assumptions!

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              #16
              Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
              Tut tut tut.

              If you’re going to drink while in charge of a computer this is bound to happen. Have you thought about giving up alcohol, it’s one of the devils tools you know?
              The problem is the morning drink while the hands are shaking. That's why the experts pour the night before and use a straw. Saves the teeth as well as the lappy.

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                #17
                Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                Last night split beer over my laptop. And it was my (nearly full) last bottle.

                Oh yeah, my laptop was damaged as well. But got a new one in the morning.
                *Sigh* When will people learn....?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by woohoo View Post
                  Sounds like someone got a little overexcited browsing the internet whilst drunk. And you say the laptop is a little sticky now??

                  So I'm not the only one who thinks likes that sort of extracurricular activity?
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                    The country is called 'Éire' in the Irish language and Ireland in the English language. You don't say 'Espana' when speaking English so why say 'Eire'? The island is also called 'Éire' in the Irish language and 'Ireland' in English, so using the term 'Éire' doesn't help distinguish between the country and the island.

                    Where there is confusion between the state of Ireland and the island of Ireland, the term 'Republic of Ireland' clarifies (this is the term used in the UK's Ireland Act of 1949 and is also seen sometimes on official government documentation). The rather clumsy term 'island of Ireland' is the equivalent term to clarify.

                    Southern Ireland was a short lived country in the 1920s, so it is incorrect to use the term in the contemporary context. The Irish Republic is also a historical term, referring to a short lived French revolutionary backed administration and then later the revolutionary state declared in 1916, which was only recognised internationally by the USSR. The term is probably still used by some dissident republicans who don't accept the legitimacy of the Anglo Irish treaty partitioning Ireland.

                    So in summary, stick to 'Ireland' or the ' Republic of Ireland' if you want to be accurate.

                    If you are worried that 'Ireland' will offend some people in Northern Ireland, you can equalise this by using the term 'Northern Ireland' to people from the Republic of Ireland. Some will be offended (e.g. because the northernmost point in the island of Ireland is in the Republic), but it's the accurate term. The term 'Ulster' is incorrect for 'Northern Ireland' as Ulster contains three counties from the Republic. The term 'six counties' is a republican term used to denote illegitimacy for Northern Ireland. The term 'twenty-six counties' is occasionally used by republicans to denote illegitimacy for the Republic of Ireland.



                    Indeed a bunch of bitchy little girls!

                    I'l use Eire still.

                    For Espana I will use Spain and Catalonia + Gibraltar for those areas they wish were theirs!
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                      Tut tut tut.

                      If you’re going to drink while in charge of a computer this is bound to happen. Have you thought about giving up alcohol, it’s one of the devils tools you know?

                      oh blimey you have turned to religion!

                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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