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    #21
    Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
    The DUP got a billion. But even that was not enough for them to support TM "deal". How much for that?
    There’s a separate sub-forum for that discussion ;-)

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      #22
      This is Boris Johnson's chance, now that the Remoaners in chief have gone, he's a shoe in.

      He needs to lead them into the next GE with the slogan f*** business on buses all over the country.

      I'm alright Jack

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        #23
        More Tories resigning today apparently.

        The rumour is that the plan is to resign in waves to keep themselves on the front page, particularly if a no deal becomes inevitable.

        Lets see.
        I'm alright Jack

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          #24
          to be honest i'm enjoying the destruction of the political parties, burn it all down and start again

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            #25
            Originally posted by filthy1980 View Post
            i follow a lot of labour die hards on the old twitter, ordinarily they quick to jump on every type of "ism" or support the case of the oppressed

            but when it comes to antisemitism within Corbyn's labour they;re strangely quiet or reserved in their criticism

            on the surface i would attribute this to pure tribalism but i think deeper down antisemitism is a feature and not a bug of socialist ideology
            Well if you think about it the 'typical stereotype jew' is seen as a penny pinching money lender only in it for their own profit.

            Which is clearly at odds with any socialist ideology.

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              #26
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              Well if you think about it the 'typical stereotype jew' is seen as a penny pinching money lender only in it for their own profit.

              Which is clearly at odds with any socialist ideology.
              yes, that and the fact that jewish people are probably the most successful ethnic group in whichever society they inhabit, so hold a disproportionate number senior positions in business or politics

              socialists obviously want to attack these positions of power and attribute the over representation of Jewish people as some sort of conspiracy (ie "they're just in it for themselves" "they all support Isreal who are oppressing the Palestinians" "we stand on the side of the oppressed" . . . . hence the antisemitism

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                #27
                Originally posted by filthy1980 View Post
                yes, that and the fact that jewish people are probably the most successful ethnic group in whichever society they inhabit, so hold a disproportionate number senior positions in business or politics

                socialists obviously want to attack these positions of power and attribute the over representation of Jewish people as some sort of conspiracy (ie "they're just in it for themselves" "they all support Isreal who are oppressing the Palestinians" "we stand on the side of the oppressed" . . . . hence the antisemitism
                Due to skill and talent or nepotism?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by original PM View Post
                  Due to skill and talent or nepotism?
                  there's never one reason for this but i think genetics and culture play a huge part

                  race and IQ correlations with economic success is a controversial area, but Ashkenazi Jews tend to be the most successful ethnic group with one of the highest IQ's

                  the values of a culture will also play a part, if you grow up in the understanding of hard work and to strive for success then more members of that culture are likely to achieve that

                  and then once you are in the "power positions" the generation following you have a slightly easier path because they can benefit from socio-cultural networks better education etc

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