Chlorine

[WTFH]

It’s not quite as simple as that. What are the differences in ppm between salads and chicken? What is the purpose of each type of wash (general antibacterial for salads as well as being packed in protective atmosphere to prolong life, vs deep antibacterial for salmonella / ecoli for chicken).

It’s not just low USA standards in processing plants. They’re only now coming out of a food poisoning crisis in lettuce due to farmers spraying crops with slurry. Not that we’ll be importing lettuce from them, but their lower standards start at the farm.

I’d prefer our standards to be science-based (and there is definitely room for our regulations and standards to move, eg for GMOs), not just on where food is cheaper.

The EU blamers are not interested in facts.

UK & EU animal welfare and hygiene starts at the farm. US hygiene starts at the abattoir.
As for chlorine washed vegetables, in several EU countries they are banned. Other countries, such as the UK, have chosen not to introduce those rules.

[Yorkie62]

You really don’t know how anything works, do you, and all you see is “The EU” as a bogeyman. No wonder the Daily Mail is so successful in this country.

“The EU” don’t police hygiene standards, that is up to Member States to enforce. Within the UK that is the Food Standards Agency.

Nothing like getting a bit of horse mixed up with the Beef and pork like certain individual member states did recently in failing to police hygene standards.

[meridian]

Nothing like getting a bit of horse mixed up with the Beef and pork like certain individual member states did recently in failing to police hygene standards.

That’s not a hygiene standard.

I’ve written about this before, but contrary to popular opinion there is not someone from FSA standing at every line in every manufacturing plant ensuring that what is in the product matches the label.

[BlasterBates]

Even US vegetables are infected with salmonella because they're sprayed with manure from infected animals.

[original PM]

You know, given how it seems everything you eat from America is going to kill you, there are an awful lot of Americans and a lot of them are fat.

So whilst all this scaremongering is going on it is quite clear that the people of the US of A are not $hitting themselves thin with food poisoning.

So maybe the proof of the pudding is in the eating?

[Yorkie62]

That’s not a hygiene standard.

I’ve written about this before, but contrary to popular opinion there is not someone from FSA standing at every line in every manufacturing plant ensuring that what is in the product matches the label.

1. I would expect anybody from the FSA to be policing another EU members food processing line. I would expect them to do that themselves.

2. Of course its a hygene issue. Its about cross contamination. At home do you use the same kitchen utensils to prepare your veg after using them to prepare your raw chicken. No or course you don't because of the HYGENE risk of cross contamination. On the basis of your Not a Hygene Issue argument then you would be quite happy with BSE contaminated Beef in your Pork and Beef sausages.

[Zigenare]

Even US vegetables are infected with salmonella because they're sprayed with manure from infected animals.

Thank <insert deity of choice> that can't happen in the UK.

[BlasterBates]

Thank <insert deity of choice> that can't happen in the UK.

Exactly that is why there are so few cases as the food inspectorate are aware of the problems and stamp it out.

150 cases of Salmonella in the UK vs 1.2 million in the US

The causes of salmonella in the US are due to poor hygiene in meat and vegetables.

[Zigenare]

Exactly that is why there are so few cases as the food inspectorate are aware of the problems and stamp it out.

150 cases of Salmonella in the UK vs 1.2 million in the US

The causes of salmonella in the US are due to poor hygiene in meat and vegetableslaziness and stupidity.

Gratis.

[meridian]

1. I would expect anybody from the FSA to be policing another EU members food processing line. I would expect them to do that themselves.

2. Of course its a hygene issue. Its about cross contamination. At home do you use the same kitchen utensils to prepare your veg after using them to prepare your raw chicken. No or course you don't because of the HYGENE risk of cross contamination. On the basis of your Not a Hygene Issue argument then you would be quite happy with BSE contaminated Beef in your Pork and Beef sausages.

1. The point about FSA not being on every line in the UK, extrapolates to all other member states as well. Like any government agency they don’t have the resources.

2. Horse in your beef is not a hygiene issue, it is a labelling issue. Horse is perfectly acceptable to eat.

Having a different meat to one that you expect to see in your product is not an unusual occurrence. The Food Unwrapped team did a program on British kebabs a couple of weeks ago, let’s just say that not all lamb kebabs in the UK are 100% ovine. Again, not a hygiene issue, but a labelling issue.

BSE is something completely different and is of course a contamination issue.

You’re conflating two different things.