Chlorine

[WTFH]

You know, given how it seems everything you eat from America is going to kill you, there are an awful lot of Americans and a lot of them are fat.

So whilst all this scaremongering is going on it is quite clear that the people of the US of A are not $hitting themselves thin with food poisoning.

So maybe the proof of the pudding is in the eating?

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

[Yorkie62]

1. The point about FSA not being on every line in the UK, extrapolates to all other member states as well. Like any government agency they don’t have the resources.

2. Horse in your beef is not a hygiene issue, it is a labelling issue. Horse is perfectly acceptable to eat.
How do you know the Horse meat in not contaminated and is fit for human consumption?

Having a different meat to one that you expect to see in your product is not an unusual occurrence. The Food Unwrapped team did a program on British kebabs a couple of weeks ago, let’s just say that not all lamb kebabs in the UK are 100% ovine. I expect some of it was from the local cat populationAgain, not a hygiene issue, but a labelling issue.

BSE is something completely different and is of course a contamination issue.

You’re conflating two different things.Nah cross contamination is a potential hygene issue

HTH

[Yorkie62]

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

Yeah injected with tap water (chlorinated) to make them look bigger and more appetising. Isn't that what done to UK supermarket chicken breast fillets. Personally I buy all my meat from an independent UK Butcher, at least I can see him spatchcocking (roadkilling) my chicken.

[meridian]

HTH

You keep saying cross-contamination, which suggests that you don’t know that the decision to introduce horse meat was deliberate and not an accidental contamination.

Of course “whether it was fit for human consumption” would be a hygiene question, but that was not the issue with the horse meat. You’re now making things up to suit your story.

[Zigenare]

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

Where are they sourced currently?

[original PM]

And maybe you're just not interested in the facts.

Animal welfare in the US is practically non-existent.
To reduce costs, there are no requirements for farmers to clean out poultry sheds.
There's no requirement for poultry to have access to fresh air or daylight.
The number of birds per square metre is considerably higher for the ones that are "barn" chickens.
etc.

...but you're not interested in animal welfare, you just want £2 chickens from Morrisons.

Luckily I am not in a position where I count every penny and so £2 chickens from Morrisons do not really figure - I do buy chicken from Morrisons - often the pre diced stuff for when doing old el paso mexican stuff.

As Yorkie says the supermarkets plump up meat with water to make it look better (local landlord and chef was banging on about this the other year.) however by the time it has been fried up with a load of peppers n 'spices' then it is 'fine'

You probably need to recognise that a lot of people in the Uk do not eat fresh regularly - oven chips, frozen peas and chicken nuggets are common food for many people - and you may as well stick whatever crap you want in a chicken nugget...

[Zigenare]

Luckily I am not in a position where I count every penny and so £2 chickens from Morrisons do not really figure - I do buy chicken from Morrisons - often the pre diced stuff for when doing old el paso mexican stuff.

As Yorkie says the supermarkets plump up meat with water to make it look better (local landlord and chef was banging on about this the other year.) however by the time it has been fried up with a load of peppers n 'spices' then it is 'fine'

You probably need to recognise that a lot of people in the Uk do not eat fresh regularly - oven chips, frozen peas and chicken nuggets are common food for many people - and you may as well stick whatever crap you want in a chicken nugget...

Just so long as they don't come from the US, because when that happens we're all going to die!!!!!

[Yorkie62]

You keep saying cross-contamination, which suggests that you don’t know that the decision to introduce horse meat was deliberate and not an accidental contamination.

Of course “whether it was fit for human consumption” would be a hygiene question, but that was not the issue with the horse meat. You’re now making things up to suit your story.

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

[Old Greg]

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

Quoted for posterity.

[meridian]

Chlorine

"The 2013 horse meat scandal was a scandal in parts of Europe in which foods advertised as containing beef were found to contain undeclared or improperly declared horse meat – as much as 100% of the meat content in some cases"...

"While the presence of undeclared meat was not a health issue, the scandal revealed a major breakdown in the traceability of the food supply chain, and the risk that harmful ingredients could have been included as well. Sports horses, for example, could have entered the food supply chain, and with them the veterinary drug phenylbutazone which is banned in food animals."

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

100% horse meat was accidental!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull the other one its got bells on.

I literally said that it was deliberate.

As for sports horses, plenty of “could”s in your quote. If they did, then that is a hygiene / contamination issue. If they didn’t, then it’s a simple labelling issue. Getting tired of repeating this now.

You do know that your own quote literally says “not a health issue”?