Originally posted by ladymuck
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostBirth is the normal definition.Comment
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Originally posted by filthy1980 View Postin your opinion is aborting a fetus @ 39 weeks and 6 days justifiable in non life threatening circumstances?Comment
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Originally posted by filthy1980 View Postin your opinion is aborting a fetus @ 39 weeks and 6 days justifiable in non life threatening circumstances?Comment
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Originally posted by filthy1980 View Postat what point would you say a fetus is a baby?Comment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostIt all depends on the specific circumstances, but I would expect the medical advice to either suggest induce labour or do a C-section.
(Not saying I have the answer, like I stated earlier in the thread it's a minefield)Comment
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Originally posted by filthy1980 View PostMy argument was more around at what point does the fetus begin to have human rights (right to life)
(Not saying I have the answer, like I stated earlier in the thread it's a minefield)
How about at the point you can reasonably expect it to show 6 of the 7 signs of life:
Movement, respiration, sensitive to environment, growth, excretion, feeding
Excluded reproduction for reasons I really hope don't need pointing out.Comment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostFair enough.
How about at the point you can reasonably expect it to show 6 of the 7 signs of life:
Movement, respiration, sensitive to environment, growth, excretion, feeding
Excluded reproduction for reasons I really hope don't need pointing out.
i just have a problem with zealots at either end of the spectrumComment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostFair enough.
How about at the point you can reasonably expect it to show 6 of the 7 signs of life:
Movement, respiration, sensitive to environment, growth, excretion, feeding
Excluded reproduction for reasons I really hope don't need pointing out.
What constitutes movement, an amputated frogs leg can be made to move with electrical impulses, i.e. does an uncontrolled muscular spasm constitute movement.
similar argument could also be applied to feeding and excretion. I think we all know what you mean but for legal clarity it would have to be defined and then how do you prove that is occurring. You can't see or prove that the Foetus is feeding, and you can't say well its alive so it must be feeding because you are using feeding as one of your 6 proofs of life - a circular argument. the same applies to excretion. I could go on but you get the general idea that you need good unquestionable legal definitions. As has already been said its a minefield out thereComment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostI'd like to see the evidence / stats for "lifestyle abortions". Mistakes happen or something goes wrong.
Abortion isn't simple. It's a nasty process on the body, whatever stage it happens at. For a vulnerable woman, it can also be a mentally harrowing experience.
Men seem to think that pregancy, birth, abortions, miscarriages are all just a walk in the park so they're perfectly placed to shame, blame, legislate and generally decide what a woman should do with her body.
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