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    #21
    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    The far right like to claim he was a socialist because his party contained the word "Social". That's a bit like UKIP having UK in their title, when they are only interested in England, or the English Defence League having English in their title, when they mean "white right wingers".
    A question, though, is did you read the link you provided?
    You see you are also confusing fascism with right wing which is simply not the case when you look up the meaning of fascism. I have done all the work for you so all you have to do is read.

    Fascism is a way of ruling that advocates total control of the people. ... Fascism comes from the Latin fascio, meaning “bundle, or political group.” In fascism, the people are looked at as a bundle — one body that must be controlled by the government with absolute force.

    So to call someone a fascist does not necessarily mean they are right wing it just means they are a control freak.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      I believe he was more of a socialist. National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism from : Nazism - Wikipedia

      the Allies fought and died to reclaim the occupied lands of Europe from Germany, not specifically for the reasons you listed. Having prevented Germany from invading the UK the next logical step was to force them out of the occupied France, etc. there is not doubt that certain individuals (not just one) used the situation to further their ideologies ( much like is happening in the Labour party) but D-Day was about the beginning of the process to free the occupied lands of Europe from a foreign aggressor nothing more.
      If you think that Nazis were socialists, you must get really confused by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

      And that's before we consider buffalo wings.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
        If you think that Nazis were socialists, you must get really confused by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

        And that's before we consider buffalo wings.
        What is the real difference between extreme left and right wing politics. The both rely on total control of the populous. They both persecute anyone who attempt to stand in their way to maintain their grip on power. The economics maybe different but the method of control (fascism) is the same.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
          You see you are also confusing fascism with right wing which is simply not the case when you look up the meaning of fascism. I have done all the work for you so all you have to do is read.

          Fascism is a way of ruling that advocates total control of the people. ... Fascism comes from the Latin fascio, meaning “bundle, or political group.” In fascism, the people are looked at as a bundle — one body that must be controlled by the government with absolute force.

          So to call someone a fascist does not necessarily mean they are right wing it just means they are a control freak.
          Fasces were a bundle of sticks that symbolised an ancient Roman magistrate's power. That is why Mussolini adopted the term fascist. Nothing to do with looking at people as a bundle.

          Fascists are right wing, but not all right wingers are fascist. Also, not all 'control freaks' are fascist or right wing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
            Fasces were a bundle of sticks that symbolised an ancient Roman magistrate's power. That is why Mussolini adopted the term fascist. Nothing to do with looking at people as a bundle.

            Fascists are right wing, but not all right wingers are fascist. Also, not all 'control freaks' are fascist or right wing.
            Incorrect I afraid. Yes an example of fascism is the extreme right wing but it is only an example NOT a definition


            From the online Cambridge dictionary the definition of Fascism. Once again I've done all the hard work for you so all you have to do is read.

            FASCISM | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

            " a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed"

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              #26
              Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
              Incorrect I afraid. Yes an example of fascism is the extreme right wing but it is only an example NOT a definition


              From the online Cambridge dictionary the definition of Fascism. Once again I've done all the hard work for you so all you have to do is read.

              FASCISM | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

              " a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed"
              1. Are you still claiming your incorrect relationship between the terms fasces and fascism?

              2. The definition you give does not address whether or not fascism is right-wing, so is of no help to your argument.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                1. Are you still claiming your incorrect relationship between the terms fasces and fascism?

                2. The definition you give does not address whether or not fascism is right-wing, so is of no help to your argument.
                From the authoritative OED:

                An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                  1. Are you still claiming your incorrect relationship between the terms fasces and fascism?

                  2. The definition you give does not address whether or not fascism is right-wing, so is of no help to your argument.
                  1. I don't see where I brought fasces into the discussion, You did that.

                  2. That is my whole point. fascism is not necessarily right wing. Extreme right wing politics is an example of fascism but it is NOT the definition.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                    1. I don't see where I brought fasces into the discussion, You did that.

                    2. That is my whole point. fascism is not necessarily right wing. Extreme right wing politics is an example of fascism but it is NOT the definition.
                    1. Fascio is simply the Italian derivative and equivalent word of fasces. I was helping you out with the root of the term fascism.

                    2. See OED definition above.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                      What is the real difference between extreme left and right wing politics. The both rely on total control of the populous. They both persecute anyone who attempt to stand in their way to maintain their grip on power. The economics maybe different but the method of control (fascism) is the same.
                      The real difference right now is extreme “right” got real chance to seize power

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