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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    I imagine she got treated in exactly the same way a bloke would have in that situation so the equality lot should be pleased at least.
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    If it was a private event then obviously the security was about as good as a BBC vetting procedure for Question Time. I also can't see anywhere in the MP's list of interests where Mark Field is a licensed bouncer....

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    Was put very succinctly on R4 this morning:

    • If it was a police officer making the same actions no one would bat an eyelid
    • If it was a female MP doing the same no one would bat an eyelid

    Its a non story where it only becomes a story be faux offence
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    I think he should be. I think he's got a potentially reasonable defense, but I personally think this is a case which should go to court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwdan View Post
    I think he should be. I think he's got a potentially reasonable defense, but I personally think this is a case which should go to court.
    For what exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WordIsBond View Post
    Did what any policeman should have done if present. We've gone to milkshakes in political protests, it really only is a matter of time before it's acid, especially since the suggestion has been put out there and publicised and the person who put it out has suffered no consequences.

    These people think they can do what they do with impunity, and they keep escalating.

    My biggest problem with what he did is apologising afterwards.
    What nonsense. I bet you treat your wife like that when she refuses to get in bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    If it was a private event then obviously the security was about as good as a BBC vetting procedure for Question Time. I also can't see anywhere in the MP's list of interests where Mark Field is a licensed bouncer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonMac View Post
    Was put very succinctly on R4 this morning:

    • If it was a police officer making the same actions no one would bat an eyelid
    • If it was a female MP doing the same no one would bat an eyelid

    Its a non story where it only becomes a story be faux offence
    I genuinely disagree. I don't think a well trained Police officer would have approached that with so much force at that point - it didn't look proportional to me, and I don't think he was genuinely in fear of being attacked/assaulted etc. Trespass alone isn't generally considered to be criminal, so despite what your average bouncer may think is okay, your right to use force is hugely curtailed.

    As to your second point, well, sexism still reigns - but that doesn't make THIS case okay.

    It's all well and good people saying "What if she was a bloke" etc, but she wasn't. Anybody who claims they feel the same amount of intimidation between a 6'6 rugby player vs a petite woman (I'm not saying she was) is lying. I'm also not saying you can't be hurt by a woman, but the case should be taken on its merits - not hypotheticals. It wasn't a huge rugby player storming in and it wasn't a 12 year old girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    Lol at all the tough guys who say that she deserves it, but everyone stood back when an angry man invaded Esther McVey’s meeting.

    Seems like the tough guys only like manhandling when it’s a small woman on the receiving end.
    They'll manhandle anything they are capable of. Looking how instinctively reacted I'd be willing to bet he didn't consider who or what it was in this case.

    But.. I don't think 'because she's a woman' is a valid defense. If you aren't big enough or strong enough to enter a situation that could end in a fracas then you don't do it. Plenty of blokes could have been bowled over as easily as that and plenty of women would have flattened him. It's not about gender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    Lol at all the tough guys who say that she deserves it, but everyone stood back when an angry man invaded Esther McVey’s meeting.

    Seems like the tough guys only like manhandling when it’s a small woman on the receiving end.

    She didn't 'deserve it' she made it happen because of her actions, in hindsight a successful security presence would have been better.
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