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    Quote Originally Posted by CryingSheep View Post
    I would be already happy if they get anything like 20+ years in jail
    Just checked. The starting point for the minimum time to serve in prison, for the murder of a police officer going about his duties, is 30 years. So if charged with murder and found guilty, 20+ years seems likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Just checked. The starting point for the minimum time to serve in prison, for the murder of a police officer going about his duties, is 30 years. So if charged with murder and found guilty, 20+ years seems likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    But but but... in fantasy world, they get a free Xbox and a Formula One road safety awareness course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Just checked. The starting point for the minimum time to serve in prison, for the murder of a police officer going about his duties, is 30 years. So if charged with murder and found guilty, 20+ years seems likely.
    I thought the legislation said the starting point was a whole of life order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwdan View Post
    I thought the legislation said the starting point was a whole of life order?
    That's for what are considered the most extreme cases.
    a) the murder of two or more persons where each murder involves a substantial degree of premeditation, the abduction of the victim, or sexual or sadistic conduct;
    b) the murder of a child if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation;
    c) a murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; or
    d) a murder by an offender previously convicted of murder.


    For killing a police officer while about his/her duties, it's 30 years. Sentencing - Mandatory life sentences in Murder cases | The Crown Prosecution Service
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    That's for what are considered the most extreme cases.
    a) the murder of two or more persons where each murder involves a substantial degree of premeditation, the abduction of the victim, or sexual or sadistic conduct;
    b) the murder of a child if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation;
    c) a murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; or
    d) a murder by an offender previously convicted of murder.


    For killing a police officer while about his/her duties, it's 30 years. Sentencing - Mandatory life sentences in Murder cases | The Crown Prosecution Service
    It looks like that's outdated, because this is the current legislation:

    Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015

    Which removes it from the 30 year starting point:

    Term of imprisonment for murder of police or prison officer
    (1)Schedule 21 to the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (determination of minimum term in relation to mandatory life sentence) is amended as follows.
    (2)In paragraph 4(2) (cases for which a whole life order is the appropriate starting point), after paragraph (b) insert—
    “(ba)the murder of a police officer or prison officer in the course of his or her duty,”.
    (3)In paragraph 5(2) (cases for which 30 years is the appropriate starting point), omit paragraph (a).
    (4)The amendments made by this section apply only in relation to an offence committed on or after the day on which they come into force.
    You can see the end result here:

    Criminal Justice Act 2003

    Which is basically what CPS have put on their website, but with the Police and Prison Officer bit moved
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    c) a murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause;
    Which is basically terrorism.
    I was in the Old Bailey a few years ago when the killer of MP Jo Cox was sentenced (a whole life) on this basis.
    It was interesting because the defendant refused to say anything to anyone during the entire trial, which gave a tricky task to the defence barrister who therefore had nothing to say to the jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Been reading the mail again?
    nah the independent

    No Sky TV, no Xbox: prisoners' perks to be axed as Chris Grayling gets tough on jails | The Independent

    Thousands of prisoners could lose their automatic access to gym equipment, games consoles and other perks under plans for a tough new regime in Britain’s jails.Chris Grayling, the Justice Secretary, is finalising proposals that will be announced in the next couple of months to combat right-wing complaints that prisons are too lax.
    Under the plans it will become harder for prisoners to earn the right to perks such as having games consoles in their cells. Ministers are also planning to increase the threshold of “good behaviour”, requiring prisoners to work or enrol in education courses in order to receive privileges.


    Sky television will be banned in private prisons and discussions are under way into whether it is practical to make thousands of inmates wear prison uniform rather than their own clothes.
    36,000 inmates play games consoles - Independent.ie

    More than 36,000 inmates are allowed to play video games in prison, figures have shown.Junior justice minister Crispin Blunt said more than a third of prisoners in England and Wales were eligible to own games consoles under a good behaviour scheme.

    But he stressed that no public money had been used to buy consoles or games for adult prisoners since 2008, with inmates and their families footing the bill.
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    In 2008, an audit turned up 12,948 games consoles in prisons and young offender institutions, with £221,726 of taxpayers' money spent on PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo systems and software.
    Last year it emerged that more than 4,000 prisoners had satellite television in their cells.



    however the Prison service seem to suggest they paid for for them, its like MP's expenses


    Update on Game Consoles in prisons - a Freedom of Information request to HM Prison Service - WhatDoTheyKnow

    Annex A Games consoles questionnaire attachment J Simpson FOI 59128.doc

    they seem to have an Xbox, not sure if its the latest model, they obviously don't pat test devices in prison or the Prison services are on a cover up..


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