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    Britain sits at bottom of global league table for cancer survival rates

    Britain sits at bottom of global league table for cancer survival rates | The Independent



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    Which is good for the planet. We all have to die of something at some point. If cancer is cured, what will we all die of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Which is good for the planet. We all have to die of something at some point. If cancer is cured, what will we all die of?
    Consumption.

    Or judging by most of the Remoaner's posts, they'll die of constipation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Which is good for the planet. We all have to die of something at some point. If cancer is cured, what will we all die of?
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    Its not treatment as such its delayed diagnosis and tulip GPs. I had slightly high PSA, but the GPs dismissed it even though it was twice my baseline level. Had to fight to get a referral. Young urologist looked at my figures and said 'mate you've got cancer, we just need to hope it hasn't spread'. It was T3A, only just operable and thankfully been cancer free for the last 18 months. Another 6 months I would have been looking at completely different scenario. The service since diagnosis has been excellent.
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    Bottom of seven high-income countries: Australia, Canada, Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand and Norway being the others. Last time I looked there were around 200 countries in the world, so the headline description of it as a "global league table" is disingenuous clickbait at best

    Here's the actual study, for those who'd like to have a stab at interpreting the significance of its findings themselves rather than relying on a journalist whose other recent headlines include "Coffee can help you lose weight, study finds" and "Eating breakfast to lose weight ‘could have the opposite effect’".

    (And yes, I know the subs write the headlines, but still.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFitz View Post
    Bottom of seven high-income countries: Australia, Canada, Denmark, Ireland, New Zealand and Norway being the others. Last time I looked there were around 200 countries in the world, so the headline description of it as a "global league table" is disingenuous clickbait at best

    Here's the actual study, for those who'd like to have a stab at interpreting the significance of its findings themselves rather than relying on a journalist whose other recent headlines include "Coffee can help you lose weight, study finds" and "Eating breakfast to lose weight ‘could have the opposite effect’".

    (And yes, I know the subs write the headlines, but still.)
    What are you doing with these facts?

    The UK is crap and we are all going to die of cancer because of Brexit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbon View Post
    Its not treatment as such its delayed diagnosis and tulip GPs. I had slightly high PSA, but the GPs dismissed it even though it was twice my baseline level. Had to fight to get a referral. Young urologist looked at my figures and said 'mate you've got cancer, we just need to hope it hasn't spread'. It was T3A, only just operable and thankfully been cancer free for the last 18 months. Another 6 months I would have been looking at completely different scenario. The service since diagnosis has been excellent.
    This does seem a common complaint the diagnosis is slow or less than competent but once you get to the experts they know what they are doing.

    We do however have a chance to get in on the ground floor with AI cancer detection

    Google shows how AI might detect lung cancer faster and more reliably - MIT Technology Review

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    Could artificial intelligence be the future of cancer diagnosis?

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    This removes the need for expert staff and could be part of a health screening. Lets hope the Government get on to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbon View Post
    Its not treatment as such its delayed diagnosis and tulip GPs. I had slightly high PSA, but the GPs dismissed it even though it was twice my baseline level. Had to fight to get a referral. Young urologist looked at my figures and said 'mate you've got cancer, we just need to hope it hasn't spread'. It was T3A, only just operable and thankfully been cancer free for the last 18 months. Another 6 months I would have been looking at completely different scenario. The service since diagnosis has been excellent.
    Glad it worked out ok for you.

    I've got a similar (less serious) issue. Have done my back in and lost the feeling in my left leg.

    Doctor: "We can't refer you for an MRI until you've had the problem for at least 8 weeks. Go home, take some painkillers and do some exercises"

    Me: "That's exactly what they told my brother who is now crippled after red flag symptoms were ignored. F**k this, thank God I've got BUPA, now please give me a referral"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbon View Post
    Its not treatment as such its delayed diagnosis and tulip GPs.
    Outside of the UK, NHS trained GPs are quite highly valued. But delayed diagnosis is also an issue. My insurance allows me to go directly to specialists without referral.
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    Glad it worked out ok for you.

    I've got a similar (less serious) issue. Have done my back in and lost the feeling in my left leg.

    Doctor: "We can't refer you for an MRI until you've had the problem for at least 8 weeks. Go home, take some painkillers and do some exercises"
    Any loss of feeling due to back problems needs to be seen rather more expeditiously than 8 weeks, I would have thought. Or have did he spot your arms have fallen off?
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