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    How plastic bags were supposed to help save the planet - BBC News

    "To be as environmentally friendly as a single plastic bag that is being recycled, a paper bag needs to be used at least 3 times while cotton bags need to be reused 131 times to have the same environmental impact".

    Article also points out that plastic bags were designed to be reused. The issue is lazy humans.

    So it seems the only way to save humankind is less humans.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    So it seems the only way to save humankind is less humans.....
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    The point being that as well as not being re-used, bags were very rarely recycled and just went to landfill.

    Which raises the question, are bin bags generally designed to biodegrade or are they just as bad?
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    The problem with these sorts of arguments is that they start from assuming that the environmental argument revolves around carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas that is driving climate change.

    If you start from the premise that CO2 is not, in fact, driving climate change and focus on environmental pollution and resource exhaustion as the great existential threats the whole equation inverts and paper becomes the best option (as long as we don't bleach it), or even hemp.

    Once it becomes obvious that we are heading into a new solar minima we are going to see a lot of people flip their arguments without missing a beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    The point being that as well as not being re-used, bags were very rarely recycled and just went to landfill.

    Which raises the question, are bin bags generally designed to biodegrade or are they just as bad?
    There was a programme earlier in the year that poked about in landfill of different ages: the bin bags were like new and some of the 50 year old newspapers were still readable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post
    There was a programme earlier in the year that poked about in landfill of different ages: the bin bags were like new and some of the 50 year old newspapers were still readable.
    Problem is the rubbish is packed so hard that the bacteria that breaks stuff down can't work because there is no oxygen. So even if something is biodegradable if its disposed of wrong it won't make a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    Problem is the rubbish is packed so hard that the bacteria that breaks stuff down can't work because there is no oxygen. So even if something is biodegradable if its disposed of wrong it won't make a difference.
    Yep I agree! Don't believe in climate change because of humans. It's a natural process.

    On recycling is a load of b.s.. 90% isn't recycled and bin ment won't take most types of plastics or wont take it if bottle have lids on or ittle bin box for cardboard is overflowing so don't bother now. We don't know what plastics is or isn't recyclable so to encourage recycling all plastics should be allowed and at the sorting office that can decide.

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