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    Is he dead in a ditch yet? Or is that another lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batcher View Post
    Bulltulipe. NHS in Scotland is devolved and is under the control of the Scottish Government so you don't hear SNP going on about 'NHS Cuts'. It is the best performing NHS in the UK*.
    So is education, and that's not going quite so well.

    *Really? Based on what criteria?
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    Quote Originally Posted by malvolio View Post
    Not it's not. If you believe that, welcome to the ranks of the undead who really don't understand what's at stake.

    This isn’t your regular Tory party though...

    The idea that this Tory party is the party of the economy and business is for the birds... This is a very historically very unique Tory offering. It’s the Tories at their worse - all the hate with none of the economic know how and a total lack of understanding of business...

    I think when it comes to the economy the torys represent something just as dangerous as Labour. At least with Labour we get the chance of stopping Brexit and saving something of future economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malvolio View Post
    So which one are actually lies then?

    And, more to the point, where is the list from the Labour side or the Scots Nats or the lib Dems? Actually, forget the Lib Dems, they don't have a clue anyway.

    Pick one at random "NHS Cuts" appear routinely from all three. There haven't been any, the most you can say is that demand is growing faster than the allowed budget: a budget that is, incidentally, ring-fenced. That is down to a lot of factors, not least allowing GPs to opt out of patient care so people go to A&E with a cold. Actually that is a trivial one. How about 60% of NHS spend is not on patient care and a huge amount of that is paying PFI contracts let under Labour under Blair and Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordac View Post
    So is education, and that's not going quite so well.

    *Really? Based on what criteria?
    On the criteria that the Scottish NHS are world renowned experts on treating drug abuse and alcoholism.

    Just like Norn Irn NHS are experts on treating gunshot wounds to knees!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    On the criteria that the Scottish NHS are world renowned experts on treating drug abuse and alcoholism.
    I'll drink to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batcher View Post
    Bulltulipe. NHS in Scotland is devolved and is under the control of the Scottish Government so you don't hear SNP going on about 'NHS Cuts'. It is the best performing NHS in the UK.
    You dont hear them mention the NHS at all if they can help it. Their new 1 billion quid Glasgow super hospital is called the Death Star. If the pigeon tulip in the ventilation isn't killing them the contaminated water is. Expect to hear a lot about that today.

    Health secretary to make statement on crisis-hit Glasgow NHS board - BBC News

    And the new 200m kids hospital in Edinburgh hasn't opened despite being 'finished' for 2 years, they are already talking about knocking it down before it opens.

    The worst mistake the SNP ever made was trying to run things. They are the worst of the worst at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malvolio View Post

    Pick one at random "NHS Cuts" appear routinely from all three. There haven't been any, the most you can say is that demand is growing faster than the allowed budget: a budget that is, incidentally, ring-fenced. That is down to a lot of factors, not least allowing GPs to opt out of patient care so people go to A&E with a cold. Actually that is a trivial one. How about 60% of NHS spend is not on patient care and a huge amount of that is paying PFI contracts let under Labour under Blair and Brown.
    A disingenuous argument anchoring “60%” next to “a huge amount on PFI”. The largest percentage paid by any NHS trust on PFI is 16% of budget - still a huge amount, but it would be more honest of you to state the figures correctly.

    PFI may have proliferated under Blair / Brown, but it was designed and started under Major’s Conservatives. The idea was that the private sector was more efficient in delivering and managing large infrastructure projects.

    You can’t have it both ways, arguing that the private sector rips off the state through PFI yet deriding Labour’s policy for part-nationalising broadband.
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    According to “FactCheckUK” on twitter, Boris was the absolute winner last night, everything he said was 100% true and everything Corbyn said was 100% lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    According to “FactCheckUK” on twitter, Boris was the absolute winner last night, everything he said was 100% true and everything Corbyn said was 100% lies.
    Would that be 'FactCheckUK' aka 'Conservative Party HQ Press Office'?

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