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As a contractor, how do you answer this criticism?
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostAsk them if they get sick pay, holidays, redundancy, notice periods that are enforceable, furloughs, rate cuts, etc.
It's a risk and reward model, that if it wasn't for the enforced travel due to the location of contracts, I'd still be engaging in. As it is, I choose to be a permie employee, pay my fare share of tax and accept that there are those who prefer the variety of contracting.
Yes I know job security is a con. Been redundant three times - why not just earn more?Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Why does evryone want their cake and eat it.
Why can't contractors understand that they actually get sick pay, holiday pay, redundancy pay, pension, health benefits etc etc. They get what ever they want.
What they can't accept, or brexitly fail to appreciate, is that all these are benefits are in their daily rate.
Contractors are paid more than permies. One of the reasons is they have to fund their own benefits. It's not difficult but contractors continually think that HMRC should subsidize them. It could easily have been Transport For London, John Lewis or The Queen but no - contractors pick on poor old HMRC. If they look bemused you can't really blame them..."Don't part with your illusions; when they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by Cirrus View PostWhy can't contractors understand that they actually get sick pay, holiday pay, redundancy pay, pension, health benefits etc etc. They get what ever they want.
What they can't accept, or brexitly fail to appreciate, is that all these are benefits are in their daily rate.
Contractors are paid more than permies. One of the reasons is they have to fund their own benefits. It's not difficult but contractors continually think that HMRC should subsidize them. It could easily have been Transport For London, John Lewis or The Queen but no - contractors pick on poor old HMRC. If they look bemused you can't really blame them...
I dunno what this new thing on this forum of "enlightened" contractors stepping up and declaring that, nope, the public are right - contractors are tax-dodging scum and have no place to complain, but it's both tiresome and irritating. And nearly always due to a complete failure to understand.Last edited by vwdan; 28 November 2019, 17:18.Comment
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Originally posted by Cirrus View PostWhy can't contractors understand that they actually get sick pay, holiday pay, redundancy pay, pension, health benefits etc etc. They get what ever they want.
What they can't accept, or brexitly fail to appreciate, is that all these are benefits are in their daily rate.
Contractors are paid more than permies. One of the reasons is they have to fund their own benefits. It's not difficult but contractors continually think that HMRC should subsidize them. It could easily have been Transport For London, John Lewis or The Queen but no - contractors pick on poor old HMRC. If they look bemused you can't really blame them...His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostNobody is asking HMRC to subsidise anything. Pray tell, how can my company pay sick pay, holiday pay, redundancy pay and health benefits if my entire income is immediately subject to PAYE like taxation? How can a company with no retained profit pay for any of that?
I dunno what this new thing on this forum of "enlightened" contractors stepping up and declaring that, nope, the public are right - contractors are tax-dodging scum and have no place to complain, but it's both tiresome and irritating. And nearly always due to a complete failure to understand.Comment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostWhy does your company have no retained profit?Comment
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Originally posted by djm View PostIn plenty of forums, Facebook, social media etc, I always see the following phrase and I wondered what everyone else thought about it and how you answered it.
"People who avoid paying fair amounts of tax by creating a company, employing themselves on minimum wage and paying themselves a large dividend lose their right to an opinion on what happens to the NHS, as they aren't fairly contributing towards it. Even if what they do is legal, morally it's completely wrong."
By the way, I'm a contractor and sick of being attacked and would like to know what to say backComment
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Originally posted by djm View PostIn plenty of forums, Facebook, social media etc, I always see the following phrase and I wondered what everyone else thought about it and how you answered it.
"People who avoid paying fair amounts of tax by creating a company, employing themselves on minimum wage and paying themselves a large dividend lose their right to an opinion on what happens to the NHS, as they aren't fairly contributing towards it. Even if what they do is legal, morally it's completely wrong."
By the way, I'm a contractor and sick of being attacked and would like to know what to say back"I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
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Originally posted by cojak View PostNever complain, never explain.Comment
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