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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    The gammons soon forget how Thatcher supported Pinochet, who used dogs to rape political prisoners.
    Chile...

    Chile has the best standard of living in Latin America | This is Chile

    Chile has a homicide rate of 2.7 per 100,000

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    double post
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    You can say "gammons this and that" all you want but 65,000 people were murdered in Brazil last year.

    500 in Chile.

    We had to bomb Dresden to get out freedom.

    If chucking a few Marxists out a helicopter got them theirs then who can argue with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minestrone View Post
    Chile...

    Chile has the best standard of living in Latin America | This is Chile

    Chile has a homicide rate of 2.7 per 100,000

    Brazil 29.2
    You've managed to combine stupidity (post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy) with ignorance (about the similar right wing military dictatorship in Brazil - see extract from wiki, below). Apparently to justify state use of dogs to rape opponents. It's all a bit ISIS.

    As early as 1964, the military government was already using the various forms of torture it devised systematically to not only gain information it used to crush opposition groups, but to intimidate and silence any further potential opponents. This radically increased after 1968.

    While other dictatorships killed more people, Brazil saw the widespread use of torture, as it also had during the dictatorship of Getúlio Vargas; Vargas's enforcer Filinto Müller has been named the "patron of torturers" in Brazil. Advisors from the United States and United Kingdom trained Brazilian forces in interrogation and torture. To extinguish its left-wing opponents, the dictatorship used arbitrary arrests, imprisonment without trials, kidnapping, and most of all, torture, which included rape and castration. The book Torture in Brazil provides accounts of only a fraction of the atrocities committed by the government.

    The military government murdered hundreds of others, although this was done mostly in secret and the cause of death often falsely reported as accidental. The government occasionally dismembered and hid the bodies.

    French General Paul Aussaresses, a veteran of the Algerian War, came to Brazil in 1973. General Aussaresses used "counter-revolutionary warfare" methods during the Battle of Algiers, including the systemic use of torture, executions and death flights. He later trained U.S. officers and taught military courses for Brazil's military intelligence. He later acknowledged maintaining close links with the military.

    So far nobody has been punished for these human rights violations, because of the 1979 Amnesty Law written by the members of the government who stayed in place during the transition to democracy. The law grants amnesty and impunity to any government official or citizen accused of political crimes during the dictatorship. Because of a certain "cultural amnesia" in Brazil, the victims have never garnered much sympathy, respect, or acknowledgement of their suffering.

    Work is underway to alter the Amnesty Law, which has been condemned by the Inter-American Court of Human Rights. The National Truth Commission was created in 2011 attempting to help the nation face its past and honor those who fought for democracy, and to compensate the family members of those killed or disappeared. Its work was concluded in 2014. It reported that under military regime at least 191 people were killed and 243 "disappeared". The total number of deaths probably measures in the hundreds, not reaching but could be nearing one thousand, while more than 50,000 people were detained and 10,000 forced to go into exile.

    According to the Comissão de Direitos Humanos e Assistência Jurídica da Ordem dos Advogados do Brasil, the "Brazilian death toll from government torture, assassination and 'disappearances' for 1964–81 was [...] 333, which included 67 killed in the Araguaia guerrilla front in 1972–74". According to the Brazilian Army 97 military and civilians were killed by terrorist and guerrilla actions made by leftist groups during the same period.

    In a 2014 report by Brazil's National Truth Commission which documented the human rights abuses of the military government, it was noted that the United States "had spent years teaching the torture techniques to the Brazilian military during that period."
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    Greg...

    Chile pre Pinochet, Chile post Pinochet, Brazil pre Pinochet, Brazil post Pinochet.


    Please choose one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minestrone View Post
    Greg...

    Chile pre Pinochet, Chile post Pinochet, Brazil pre Pinochet, Brazil post Pinochet.


    Please choose one.
    You thick ****.
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    Greg, we are a few days away from a GE where the leader of the opposition thinks Stalin had a few rough edges despite killing 40 million and a shadow Chancellor who thinks Mao had a decent economic policy despite 50 million starving to death in his various leaps forward and wars on starlings and rats.

    You show no compassion for these people yet yearn that the most stable and safe country in the south Americas should atone for its journey to that state.
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