A Ukrainian Boeing-737 crashes killing all onboard

[vetran]

Why would Vlad want to hit Donny?

Has Vlad been shooting off missiles just like the Ayatollah?

[wattaj]

FFS. This is CUK General. We don't need 'facts' and 'details' to 'know' what went wrong.

You're on the wrong forum fella

I know. WTF was I thinking...

[NickFitz]

FFS. This is CUK General. We don't need 'facts' and 'details' to 'know' what went wrong.

You're on the wrong forum fella

They’ve all been banned from PPRuNe so General is the only place left

[Zigenare]

They’ve all been banned from PPRuNe so General is the only place left

Arrse is for the more discerning.

[WTFH]

Has Vlad been shooting off missiles just like the Ayatollah?

It's been a while since he shot down any commercial airlines, maybe he's missing being in the media.

[WTFH]

They’ve all been banned from PPRuNe so General is the only place left

Just to be clear, Foxxster is NOT me.

think all airlines are avoiding both Iranian and Iraqi airspace. Qantas has announced so.

another MH117, maybe . But in a terrorist hotbed where every good terrorist has a stinger under their bed.... does not have to have been Iranian military. If it was shot down which would be my guess..

Ukrainian Aircraft down in Iran - PPRuNe Forums

[sasguru]

Here go educate yourself . Lot's to digest


List of accidents and incidents involving the Boeing 737 - Wikipedia

FFS. Calling you mince would be flattering.

[Zigenare]

Was there any mention of "Alan's Snackbar" before the "Accident"?

[WTFH]

Other possibilities:
US drone strike
Kippat Barzel using Arrow 3
MH-117 again
Iranian SAM
Jeremy Corbyn

[sasguru]

All twin commercial airliners will have had to demonstrate that they can handle losing an engine at any stage of flight after V1 (Well, Western ones anyway...).

I completely take your second point (and you'll note that at no point in this thread have I speculated about this flight). And, of course, engine failures can be nasty events which can damage other things and no matter the training, sometimes people don't react properly in the moment.

But, in principle, yes - the idea is that an engine failure at or beyond V1 should not pose a major issue. Let me see if I can find the exact regs.

Edit: I've found the test for EASA, but I'm not sure how to find the actual regulation it refers to:

https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/def...ed-version.pdf

Search for "Control Following Engine Failure"

Bloody EU - with their oppressive 'elf and safety regs, innit.
In our glorious future we should be able to specify that a plane DOESN'T have to take off with only one engine, innit?