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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Not quite the question is more how much effort should you as a contractor (albeit in this case a tree surgeon rather than IT bod) be required to confirm that what you've been asked to do is above board and legal. The council's viewpoint is that the information is easily available, I'm curious as to what the tree surgeon's argument is.
    What I said, isn't it?

    it will come down to what constitutes negligence, and what constitutes reasonable. ..........When it comes to your own work - similar questions would be asked. Did you know? Should you have known? Would a reasonable person, of the same skills, known? Did you do due dilligence? Were the orders untruthful or misleading? Etc etc etc.

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    Default How does the IT know the request was stupid?

    Typical IT think they know best, the business wants what the business wants. IT wonder why the business forms it's own internal IT function. Sometimes one side is right, sometimes the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Age quod agis View Post
    I had an interview with IT in a financial institution.

    The question was what would you do if senior management from business wanted something done that was stupid.
    The thing is, how do you know that it is stupid? You, as a lowly contractor, don't have the big picture - it might actually make sense to do it that way.

    An example of this, is the following: In WW2, an RAF squadron Commander was ordered to send a pilot up, alone, in a Hurricane, fly over a particular point on the Normandy coast, and return home. Every day at 12 noon for a month. Crazy, thought the commander. But he still did it, despite his pilot nearly getting shot down by anti aircraft batteries every time.

    It was only many years afterwards that he found out the purpose of this exercise. It is that we had found the German radio operator in that location always sent a message to his commander over the Enigma radio system every time an allied plane flew over.
    So we made sure that we had a plane fly over, every day, at the same time, keeping all other allied aircraft away, knowing that the message he would be sending each time would be the same. It allowed us to validate that the daily encryption codes we had broken for that day, were correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwdan View Post
    What I said, isn't it?
    Nope there is a big difference between knowledge (you should have known) and an additional task (you needed to have checked).

    In IT it's the difference between being asked to wipe a secretary's laptop and accepting the blame for no-one being paid on the discovery that the laptop contained the only copy of the FD's password for the company's bank account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Nope there is a big difference between knowledge (you should have known) and an additional task (you needed to have checked).

    In IT it's the difference between being asked to wipe a secretary's laptop and accepting the blame for no-one being paid on the discovery that the laptop contained the only copy of the FD's password for the company's bank account.
    Okay, I'm not really sure what you're on about now if I'm entirely truthful. You brought up a legal case, initially, but now you seem to be backing away from the legal argument.

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    Point out the flaws in the plan and where it may be contrary to policy / best practice.
    Highlight the associated risks and the impact should those risks be realized.
    Ask them to confirm in writing that they want you to do it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Mrs Eek mentioned this court case last week Magistrates issue fine over tree felling .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJABS View Post
    The thing is, how do you know that it is stupid? You, as a lowly contractor, don't have the big picture - it might actually make sense to do it that way.

    An example of this, is the following: In WW2, an RAF squadron Commander was ordered to send a pilot up, alone, in a Hurricane, fly over a particular point on the Normandy coast, and return home. Every day at 12 noon for a month. Crazy, thought the commander. But he still did it, despite his pilot nearly getting shot down by anti aircraft batteries every time.

    It was only many years afterwards that he found out the purpose of this exercise. It is that we had found the German radio operator in that location always sent a message to his commander over the Enigma radio system every time an allied plane flew over.
    So we made sure that we had a plane fly over, every day, at the same time, keeping all other allied aircraft away, knowing that the message he would be sending each time would be the same. It allowed us to validate that the daily encryption codes we had broken for that day, were correct.
    I don't think most bosses are up there with Alan Turing & Alexander "Alastair" Guthrie Denniston. It is surprising how often I have to point the bend in the middle of my right arm and explain "that is an elbow".
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