Terrorist gun killing in Germany

[Bean]

Left-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

Right-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

Which is more suitable as a description of ISIS?

[WTFH]

Left-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

Right-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

Which is more suitable as a description of ISIS?

I would suggest the one that mentions religious nationalism.

Which would you say?

[LondonManc]

No I don't. And I find myself wondering why you think they are. They are extremists. Period. Religious fanaticism doesn't have a political slant. To put it in very simple terms, which in your case I think is required, if they were far right extremists, they wouldn't be going around slaughtering white people.

Eh? You can be far right and brown in a country of brown people....

[Old Greg]

I would suggest the one that mentions religious nationalism.

Which would you say?

Do not use big words. You will make Bean sad!

[Bean]

I would suggest the one that mentions religious nationalism.

Which would you say?

The same.

Although I guess there is a small argument, that there is a concept of Islamic Socialism and therefore sometimes (but probably not ISIS) left-wing

[WTFH]

The same.

Although I guess there is a small argument, that there is a concept of Islamic Socialism and therefore sometimes (but probably not ISIS) left-wing

Unfortunately some will say there is no such thing as different concepts within Islam, and that if Islamic State say/do one thing, then all Muslims agree 100% with it.
Islam is like Christianity in that there are many variations within it.
There's the kiddie fiddlers, there's the fire and brimstone, there's the peaceful ones, there's the ones who are "in name only", etc, etc.

Unfortunately, those outside Islam who only read particular sources will say "No, they're all the same!", in the same way that those outside Christianity might not see any differences. Sadly, many who call themselves Christian or claim that this is a christian country, are ones who show little regard for acting in a Christ-like way.

[Bean]

Do not use big words. You will make Bean sad!

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[Bean]

Unfortunately some will say there is no such thing as different concepts within Islam, and that if Islamic State say/do one thing, then all Muslims agree 100% with it.
Islam is like Christianity in that there are many variations within it.
There's the kiddie fiddlers, there's the fire and brimstone, there's the peaceful ones, there's the ones who are "in name only", etc, etc.

Unfortunately, those outside Islam who only read particular sources will say "No, they're all the same!", in the same way that those outside Christianity might not see any differences. Sadly, many who call themselves Christian or claim that this is a christian country, are ones who show little regard for acting in a Christ-like way.

Indeed, however I believe it is correct to say, that;
ALL muslims believe there is only 1 true god and his name is Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.

I don't believe it is true to say, that;
ALL Christians have some dogmatic theistic principle in common, For example: Holy Trinity=No concensus, OT&NT=Same again, etc.

Happy to be corrected if anyone has examples to counter that statement.

Other than that specific exception, I wholeheartedly agree.

[WTFH]

Indeed, however I believe it is correct to say, that;
ALL muslims believe there is only 1 true god and his name is Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.

I don't believe it is true to say, that;
ALL Christians have some dogmatic theistic principle in common, For example: Holy Trinity=No concensus, OT&NT=Same again, etc.

Happy to be corrected if anyone has examples to counter that statement.

Other than that specific exception, I wholeheartedly agree.

I would suggest that all Christians would say there is one God and that Jesus is his son. After that it's all arguments and debates about who or what is right.

Sorry to use Wikipedia, but these sort of illustrate the point - so many different flavours.

[Bean]

I would suggest that all Christians would say there is one God and that Jesus is his son. After that it's all arguments and debates about who or what is right.

Sorry to use Wikipedia, but these sort of illustrate the point - so many different flavours.

The Trinity doctrine (Council of Nicea (325)), which is missing from that wiki diagram, surely establishes that, there are in fact 3 equal sub-gods...but instead of my horrific para-phrasing;

"Nontrinitarianism is a form of Christianity that rejects the mainstream Christian doctrine of the Trinity—the teaching that God is three distinct hypostases or persons who are coeternal, coequal, and indivisibly united in one being, or essence"

Nontrinitarianism - Wikipedia

Anyway, it's Friday - home time.