Coronavirus (Covid 19)

[ladymuck]

Ah well.

Didn’t get there in the end. Jet2 bounced all the flights.

It appears that no-one is taking any notice of the Foreign Office or the Government now.

Sorry to hear that

[Lost It]

Yes, the mutation is the 'Iamasthickastulip' virus causing people to panic buy toilet paper

I just hope these idiots buy lots of condoms as well so they don't add the stupid gene to the next set of dole wallahs.

What we do seem to know is that if you are over 60 and have an existing pleural or respiratory condition then your immune system might well be overcome if you contract this virus.

Now... Nature usually wants these Virus things to spread and killing the host isn't a very efficient way of doing that, so yes it has to be a mutated bug of some kind.

Herd mentality: Bugs as a rule don't enjoy temperatures much below average Human temperatures, so a load of people "flushing" their lungs shouting and singing at a Footy or Rugby match at average outside temperatures of below 12C probably aren't at much risk, it's when they get to the pub at it's "Comfy" 20C that they might become at risk. So there is some sense in the Government's herd idea.

Technically I'm at risk, I'm over 60, my immune system is dealing with all kinds of things, so if I get it I might survive, I might not. Who knows. But what really hacks me off about this whole thing is that the statistics are screwed to make the papers able to promote lots of horror stories.

It would be much more reassuring if they told you how many had tested positive, how many had tested positive but didn't need to go into hospital because their immune system beat it off, how many have had to go in but have been released. And how many actually needed to be in ICU because of it. So then we could have a bash at making up our mind just how serious this is.

But that doesn't seem the way of media these days. Reporting actual facts that the "herd" can use to make up their own minds doesn't seem to be in the game plan any more.

[cojak]

Don’t read the Daily Express or the Mail Online. That’s my advice.

[darmstadt]

Who said:

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I am declaring a National Emergency."

March 13: “I don’t take responsibility at all."

[Andy2]

Health Secretary just said we have only 5000 ventilators and they are willing to buy it from anyone who is able to manufacture it as there is no supply currently in the world. Anyone know how to manufacture it ? lets do it.
PS: italy has double the critical care beds per 100000 people than the UK , and they are struggling

[KinooOrKinog]

I don't normally get concerned about stuff like this as I'm well aware it's usually over exaggerated by the media, but in this case I'm very worried about my mum. She's obviously over 65 & already has respiratory issues. I don't know how I'll cope if she gets ill over this. We only lost my dad a year ago.
Doesn't help when I'm hearing stuff about how the NHS might need to decide who deserves to live more.

[tomtomagain]

Don’t read the Daily Express or the Mail Online. That’s my advice.

Even when we aren't in a time of crisis that's always good advice.

[ladymuck]

I don't normally get concerned about stuff like this as I'm well aware it's usually over exaggerated by the media, but in this case I'm very worried about my mum. She's obviously over 65 & already has respiratory issues. I don't know how I'll cope if she gets ill over this. We only lost my dad a year ago.
Doesn't help when I'm hearing stuff about how the NHS might need to decide who deserves to live more.

It's not about who deserves to live, it's about who will most benefit when resources are constrained. It's a bloody awful decision to have to make as it goes against a doctor's core reason for being (the ones that aren't Harold Shipman, that is).

If things follow the worst case scenario, then tough decisions will have to be made sadly.

At least we're not in the USA where the infection is likely to be rampant because hardly anyone can afford medical care and I can see the insurance companies refusing to pay out.

[GhostofTarbera]

Health Secretary just said we have only 5000 ventilators and they are willing to buy it from anyone who is able to manufacture it as there is no supply currently in the world. Anyone know how to manufacture it ? lets do it.
PS: italy has double the critical care beds per 100000 people than the UK , and they are struggling

Dr On LBC radio says all London ventilators already in use, zero capacity at the moment


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[GhostofTarbera]

If things follow the worst case scenario, then tough decisions will have to be made sadly.

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Indeed but could have started production 4/6 weeks ago when data was coming in from China and 4 weeks ago from Italy

But no, the budget and “getting it done” and sound bites was the priority then


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