The Elephant in the room

[MrMarkyMark]

no chance. it's what he does.
misinformation and fearmongering with an overwhelming sense of self privilege is his forte.
along with his new chums, crashlanding, scobby doo and that janitor twat.

Yawn.

Welcome back, I've missed you

[MrMarkyMark]

It is important to know whether it is true. The data suggests it isn't. "Hard to see" is scientist-speak for "unlikely". Science isn't definite. There's an extremely small chance that lying under your bed whispering "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" will offer you some protection.

Next time, post a link to a decent source. Exclude the scare-mongering.

I'm certainly not trying to scare people actually, completely the opposite.

Anyway, we will leave it there, I will add I did find the second article genuinely interesting, thanks!

My ask is please don't post stuff from the New Scientist in future, to support your arguments, I have never trusted it for accuracy.

In addition, this was posted in General, which is hardly known for it definitive info.

[CheeseSlice]

To my knowledge, human's have not developed immunity to ANY corona viruses yet (Common cold, SARs, Flu, etc), so what will make this one different?

What are the Cukker's crackpot theories.

I think SARS-COV2 (current pandemic) will stick around but will mutate and become weaker over time until it is no worse or less common than the ones that cause the common cold. This may take several decades though.

I believe this is what happened with Spanish flu. I.e. It never really vanished, and just became less deadly over the decades as it evolved to survive in humans (though flu is still obviously deadly).

I should add that this virus seems to mutate slowly so we should in theory be able to produce an annual vaccination like we have for flu. Well hopefully..

[ladymuck]

None of us are

However, Lady Muck suggests that you can be naturally immune, in the case of a genetic mutation against certain pathogens.
Whether this is the case with Coronovirus noone yet knows.

Yes, actual immunity would usually come after, but some people never getting sick suggests that they have enough antibodies to fight it, whether this suggests some kind of natural immunity, or being exposed to a smaller viral load, I really couldn't tell you.

All of this is so new, to be fair, noone else could tell you definitevely either.

I would hasten to add: immunity by virtue of genetics is by no means known for coronaviruses but it has happened for other pathogens.

It was more a pedantic comment that not all immunity is from exposure.

Maybe future generations - those that will be part of the Christmas/New Year baby boom, for example - could be born with some level of immunity as epigenetic changes could (not proven, haven't even seen a snifter of a suggestion) slightly change gene expression and give a level of protection. Or the virus horribly mutates germ cells and we end up with a bunch of lizards being born.

[MrMarkyMark]

I would hasten to add: immunity by virtue of genetics is by no means known for coronaviruses but it has happened for other pathogens.

It was more a pedantic comment that not all immunity is from exposure.

Maybe future generations - those that will be part of the Christmas/New Year baby boom, for example - could be born with some level of immunity as epigenetic changes could (not proven, haven't even seen a snifter of a suggestion) slightly change gene expression and give a level of protection. Or the virus horribly mutates germ cells and we end up with a bunch of lizards being born.

Very interesting none the less .

Both Mr Ike and Zeity will be most happy if this leads to a greater population of lizards.

[NotAllThere]

I'm certainly not trying to scare people actually, completely the opposite.

I couldn't care less about your intention. You post unsubstantiated crap, and I'll socially isolate you for a day or so.

The same might happen if I find you too annoying.

[NotAllThere]

There's some evidence that having had the BCG offers a level of protection against respiratory viruses.

Can an Old Vaccine Stop the New Coronavirus? - The New York Times

Trigger warning: science article written by a journalist.

[DoctorStrangelove]

I had my BCG about half a century ago.

It was nasty.

I wonder if it's still doing something.

[AtW]

I couldn't care less about your intention. You post unsubstantiated crap, and I'll socially isolate you for a day or so.

6 ft underground?

[NotAllThere]

6 ft underground?

Now we're back to zombies.