Belgium and UK have the highest COVID case fatality rates (CFR)

[sasguru]

Yes I know the data is incomplete and things will come out in the wash, but its already clear that Germany, for example, will never be close.
It's also worth noting that Belgium includes community deaths as well, but the UK is only counting hospital deaths.
I suspect if community deaths are included, the UK is a clear winner.

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

[AtW]

Totally unfair to compare UK with Germany.

Germany can afford to have quality healthcare system because they are high taxing country with income tax rates at 45% for annual incomes of over €265,327.

Germany is so harsh that they even charge 26.375% dividend tax even if owner lives in British Virgin Islands.

[darmstadt]

Totally unfair to compare UK with Germany.

Germany can afford to have quality healthcare system because they are high taxing country with income tax rates at 45% for annual incomes of over €265,327.

Germany is so harsh that they even charge 26.375% dividend tax even if owner lives in British Virgin Islands.

Healthcare has nothing to do with income tax n Germany

[sasguru]

Healthcare has nothing to do with income tax n Germany

It's a pity that no lessons are going to be learnt from this and the UK will probably double down on its Soviet style system.
Been saying for years we need an insurance based system.

But to be fair I don't think the CFR is due to systems, since the Uk system doesn't look like it is overwhelmed at the moment.
Rather the German leadership is better educated and acted faster.

[DimPrawn]

Sounds like you need to join the other Lord Haw Haw types and move to Germany.

[SeededLoaf]

and house prices won't budge.

It will be interesting to see how well the UK does in developing and distributing the vaccine.

[GhostofTarbera]

It's a pity that no lessons are going to be learnt from this and the UK will probably double down on its Soviet style system.
Been saying for years we need an insurance based system.

But to be fair I don't think the CFR is due to systems, since the Uk system doesn't look like it is overwhelmed at the moment.
Rather the German leadership is better educated and acted faster.

I’ve visited a hospital in Moscow, it blows any Uk hospital I’ve ever been in for levels of

Equipment
Staff knowledge
Diagnostics
Cleaning
Everything basically

Can’t think of anything a Uk hospital would beat it by


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[Old Greg]

I’ve visited a hospital in Moscow, it blows any Uk hospital I’ve ever been in for levels of

Equipment
Staff knowledge
Diagnostics
Cleaning
Everything basically

Can’t think of anything a Uk hospital would beat it by


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[MarillionFan]

Totally unfair to compare UK with Germany.

Germany can afford to have quality healthcare system because they are high taxing country with income tax rates at 45% for annual incomes of over €265,327.

Germany is so harsh that they even charge 26.375% dividend tax even if owner lives in British Virgin Islands.

Plus Germany gassed all of the weak / infirm / disabled during the 2nd world war so have a different population mix. Harsh. But true.

[darmstadt]

Germany can afford to have quality healthcare system because they are high taxing country with income tax rates at 45% for annual incomes of over €265,327.

Actually €270,501 so a single person earning €280,000 in 2020:

Ergebnis	Betrag	Durchschnitts​belastung	Grenz​belastung
Einkommen​steuer	108.921,00 Euro	38,90 %	45,00 %
Solidaritäts​zuschlag	5.990,65 Euro	2,14 %
Summe	114.911,65 Euro	41,04 %

A married person would be:

Ergebnis	Betrag	Durchschnitts​belastung	Grenz​belastung
Einkommen​steuer	99.672,00 Euro	35,60 %	42,00 %
Solidaritäts​zuschlag	5.481,96 Euro	1,96 %
Summe	105.153,96 Euro	37,56 %

The calculation is:

a)	bis 9.408 Euro	ESt = 0
b)	von 9.409 Euro bis 14.532 Euro	ESt = (972,87 * y + 1.400) * y y = (zvE - 9.408) / 10.000
c)	von 14.533 Euro bis 57.051 Euro	ESt = (212,02 * z + 2.397) * z + 972,79 z = (zvE - 14.532) / 10.000
d)	von 57.052 Euro bis 270.500 Euro	ESt = 0,42 * zvE - 8.963,74
e)	ab 270.501 Euro	ESt = 0,45 * zvE - 17.078,74

Then you do your yearly tax return, doesn't matter if you're self employed or an employee but you can go to an accountant and get rebates on a load of stuff..