Second Wave

[SeededLoaf]

We'll have a vaccine by then.

Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).

[AtW]

We'll have a vaccine by then. Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).

Hopefully he is right, but it won't be safe enough to use on mass scale, only for health workers and others who under much higher risk.

And then there are anti-vaxxers, who will be out in force with their tin foil hats.

[DimPrawn]

Things about a Coronavirus vaccine are:

Will if work with all the current Covid-19 mutations and future one?
How quickly can we manufacture 70,000,000 doses?

Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity. So far no one has ever made a reliable working vaccine, and people have been trying for 50 years.

Towards a universal coronavirus vaccine: science fact or science-fiction? | Microbiology Society

In 2015

Vaccine for Mers coronavirus 'looks promising' - BBC News

Result?

Nothing

[AtW]

Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity.

That was not enough to justify spending.

New CV costs trillions, entirely different ball game - even vaccine that works 50% of time would be welcome.

[Whorty]

Things about a Coronavirus vaccine are:

Will if work with all the current Covid-19 mutations and future one?
How quickly can we manufacture 70,000,000 doses?

Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity. So far no one has ever made a reliable working vaccine, and people have been trying for 50 years.

Towards a universal coronavirus vaccine: science fact or science-fiction? | Microbiology Society

In 2015

Vaccine for Mers coronavirus 'looks promising' - BBC News

Result?

Nothing

Yep, a vaccine for covid-19 is a red herring. We've never produced a vaccine for any of the corona viruses. Flu, yes, but not these viruses. I guess we may be lucky this time ... but unless you have a ventilator handy, I wouldn't be holding your breath

[Cirrus]

... but unless you have a ventilator handy, I wouldn't be holding your breath

Surely, if you're holding your breath, you don't need a ventilator

[Whorty]

Surely, if you're holding your breath, you don't need a ventilator

That's what I was saying

[DimPrawn]

That was not enough to justify spending.

New CV costs trillions, entirely different ball game - even vaccine that works 50% of time would be welcome.

Avian Coronavirus causes billions of $$$ global loss to the poultry industry and the pharma companies have been working on a vaccine for farmers for about 20 years. So far nothing works well for long. There is serious money to be made there if one could be developed.

Avian coronavirus - Wikipedia

There are both attenuated vaccines and inactivated vaccines available. Their effectiveness is diminished by poor cross-protection.

Or to put it into human terms. You get vaccinated. Go out all confident you are safe, and a different strain kills you a month later.

[sasguru]

We'll have a vaccine by then.

Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).

The leading contender is Remdesvir developed by Gilead, AFAIK.

[DimPrawn]

The leading contender is Remdesvir developed by Gilead, AFAIK.

I don't think that's a vaccine, it's an antiviral used for the very ill.