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    We'll have a vaccine by then.

    Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeededLoaf View Post
    We'll have a vaccine by then. Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).
    Hopefully he is right, but it won't be safe enough to use on mass scale, only for health workers and others who under much higher risk.

    And then there are anti-vaxxers, who will be out in force with their tin foil hats.

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    Things about a Coronavirus vaccine are:

    Will if work with all the current Covid-19 mutations and future one?
    How quickly can we manufacture 70,000,000 doses?

    Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity. So far no one has ever made a reliable working vaccine, and people have been trying for 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity.
    That was not enough to justify spending.

    New CV costs trillions, entirely different ball game - even vaccine that works 50% of time would be welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Things about a Coronavirus vaccine are:

    Will if work with all the current Covid-19 mutations and future one?
    How quickly can we manufacture 70,000,000 doses?

    Many common colds are caused by Coronavirus and it costs billions in lost productivity. So far no one has ever made a reliable working vaccine, and people have been trying for 50 years.

    Towards a universal coronavirus vaccine: science fact or science-fiction? | Microbiology Society

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    Vaccine for Mers coronavirus 'looks promising' - BBC News

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    Nothing
    Yep, a vaccine for covid-19 is a red herring. We've never produced a vaccine for any of the corona viruses. Flu, yes, but not these viruses. I guess we may be lucky this time ... but unless you have a ventilator handy, I wouldn't be holding your breath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whorty View Post
    ... but unless you have a ventilator handy, I wouldn't be holding your breath
    Surely, if you're holding your breath, you don't need a ventilator
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus View Post
    Surely, if you're holding your breath, you don't need a ventilator
    That's what I was saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    That was not enough to justify spending.

    New CV costs trillions, entirely different ball game - even vaccine that works 50% of time would be welcome.
    Avian Coronavirus causes billions of $$$ global loss to the poultry industry and the pharma companies have been working on a vaccine for farmers for about 20 years. So far nothing works well for long. There is serious money to be made there if one could be developed.

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    There are both attenuated vaccines and inactivated vaccines available. Their effectiveness is diminished by poor cross-protection.
    Or to put it into human terms. You get vaccinated. Go out all confident you are safe, and a different strain kills you a month later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeededLoaf View Post
    We'll have a vaccine by then.

    Oxford University said there's an 80% chance of success. That's good enough for me (coming from a leading scientist and not a politician).
    The leading contender is Remdesvir developed by Gilead, AFAIK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasguru View Post
    The leading contender is Remdesvir developed by Gilead, AFAIK.
    I don't think that's a vaccine, it's an antiviral used for the very ill.

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