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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    I thought you were a bit of a stats expert??


    Assuming that the "donkeys" were responsible for excessive deaths etc. due to incompetence the statistics would clearly indicate the worst military strategists among the major players?

    The Great War . Resources . WWI Casualties and Deaths | PBS



    Country Total Mobilized Forces Killed Wounded Prisoners and Missing Total Casualties Casualties as % of Forces
    ALLIED AND ASSOCIATED POWERS
    Russia 12,000,000 1,700,000 4,950,000 2,500,000 9,150,000 76.3
    British Empire 8,904,467 908,371 2,090,212 191,652 3,190,235 35.8
    France 8,410,000 1,357,800 4,266,000 537,000 6,160,800 73.3
    Italy 5,615,000 650,000 947,000 600,000 2,197,000 39.1
    United States 4,355,000 116,516 204,002 4,500 323,018 7.1
    Japan 800,000 300 907 3 1,210 0.2
    Romania 750,000 335,706 120,000 80,000 535,706 71.4
    Serbia 707,343 45,000 133,148 152,958 331,106 46.8
    Belgium 267,000 13,716 44,686 34,659 93,061 34.9
    Greece 230,000 5,000 21,000 1,000 27,000 11.7
    Portugal 100,000 7,222 13,751 12,318 33,291 33.3
    Montenegro 50,000 3,000 10,000 7,000 20,000 40.0
    TOTAL 42,188,810 5,142,631 12,800,706 4,121,090 22,062,427 52.3
    ALLIED AND ASSOCIATED POWERS
    Germany 11,000,000 1,773,700 4,216,058 1,152,800 7,142,558 64.9
    Austria-Hungary 7,800,000 1,200,000 3,620,000 2,200,000 7,020,000 90.0
    Turkey 2,850,000 325,000 400,000 250,000 975,000 34.2
    Bulgaria 1,200,000 87,500 152,390 27,029 266,919 22.2
    TOTAL 22,850,000 3,386,200 8,388,448 3,629,829 15,404,477 67.4
    GRAND TOTAL 65,038,810 8,528,831 21,189,154 7,750,919 37,466,904 57.5
    So British deaths & casualties by mobilised forces 35.8% were nearly half in percentage compared to Germany 64.9%. What where the Germans led by?

    The French were at 73.3% yet they were on the same major battlefields as us for the majority of the war.


    death wise it was

    British 10.2% chance of death.
    German 16.1%
    French 16.1%

    So the Lions had 6% fewer dying must have been a mistake the generals didn't kill enough to keep up with the others.

    There are plenty of other stats to look at if you want.
    Using the express was meant to trigger your arrogance and as usual it worked you attacked the messenger not the facts

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    Classic vetran. Poor attempt at correlation. Tick.
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    is replying to my links sent to Sas and is your first contact.


    There were no stats in these! Scary you arent able to follow a timeline.


    I'm still on topic but you said your expertise is in Roman history so I quoted a reputable source that clearly used winning & fewer casualties = competence.


    Just give up, you make no sense.
    I was following a timeline. I just didn't start at the beginning. But you would like to start at the beginning so let's do that, although it won't help you.

    1. Sas says x is true.
    2. You post links to try to show that x is untrue.
    3. I say that only a truly cretinous gammon could think that the complexity of differing historical viewpoints can be settled by picking the one that makes the British establishment look good.

    How do you infer from 3 that I am saying that x is true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    wriggling like a worm
    done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    done!
    1. Sas says x is true.
    2. You post links to try to show that x is untrue.
    3. I say that only a truly cretinous gammon could think that the complexity of differing historical viewpoints can be settled by picking the one that makes the British establishment look good.

    How do you infer from 3 that I am saying that x is true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    1. Sas says x is true.
    2. You post links to try to show that x is untrue.
    3. I say that only a truly cretinous gammon could think that the complexity of differing historical viewpoints can be settled by picking the one that makes the British establishment look good.

    How do you infer from 3 that I am saying that x is true?
    You can do it, vetran!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    You can do it, vetran!
    well you obviously can't. Can't follow a time line, make a consistent case or even explain it.

    So you now agree that Sas is wrong and you made a mistake insulting me, then spent loads of posts digging, you then try to deny what you meant?

    Fecking sad!


    Here we go for anyone that is still unsure, it has pictures (unfortunately no crayons).

    A Major General who served in the Falklands and used many of the tactics developed at the Somme did a documentary on the Somme and explains fairly convincingly why it happened the way it did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    well you obviously can't. Can't follow a time line, make a consistent case or even explain it.

    So you now agree that Sas is wrong and you made a mistake insulting me, then spent loads of posts digging, you then try to deny what you meant?

    Fecking sad!


    Here we go for anyone that is still unsure, it has pictures (unfortunately no crayons).

    A Major General who served in the Falklands and used many of the tactics developed at the Somme did a documentary on the Somme and explains fairly convincingly why it happened the way it did.


    Classic vetran. Now you think I've been saying that I think Sas is wrong. Take me through that logic. I'll help you walk through it.

    1. Sas says x is true.
    2. You post links to try to show that x is untrue.
    3. I say that only a truly cretinous gammon could think that the complexity of differing historical viewpoints can be settled by picking the one that makes the British establishment look good.

    How do you infer from 3 or from anything else that I have posted that I am saying that x is untrue?
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    To get back on topic, the wife was advised to book in a test at a nearby centre and managed to get one for 2pm.
    Upon arriving she was told "the wait is about 2.5 hours. And we haven't got enough tests" - so returned home making the trip non essential.

    It turns out you don't actually have to bother booking online, you can just turn up. So the whole booking system is fairly pointless and loads of people are hanging around or have to come out multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    To get back on topic, the wife was advised to book in a test at a nearby centre and managed to get one for 2pm.
    Upon arriving she was told "the wait is about 2.5 hours. And we haven't got enough tests" - so returned home making the trip non essential.

    It turns out you don't actually have to bother booking online, you can just turn up. So the whole booking system is fairly pointless and loads of people are hanging around or have to come out multiple times.

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    oh dear so well organised then
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

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