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[sasguru]

If you had any sort of education you'd know that it's historiography, not historiagraphy.
I thought someone of your alleged education would understand that once you've flounced you don't return. It's simply bad form.

Thanks for spotting my typo. There is some value in your otherwise useless existence.

[LondonManc]

Thanks for spotting my typo. There is some value in your otherwise useless existence.

Oh you're still here? What a shame. Ah well, it's about time you went back on ignore.

[NotAllThere]

Only a truly cretinous gammon could think that the complexity of differing historical viewpoints can be settled by picking the one that makes the British establishment look good.

Oh. Let me guess. Vetran, right?

Meanwhile about 100 NHS staff have died from Covid:
Very depressing. Really makes me glum.

Try reading MD's article in the current edition of Private Eye. That's really depressing.

[SueEllen]

Try reading MD's article in the current edition of Private Eye. That's really depressing.

People are depressed enough without that.

[sasguru]

Oh you're still here? What a shame. Ah well, it's about time you went back on ignore.

Off you go. Back to la-la land, where Britannia rules the waves, unicorns gambol in the glades and Covid doesn't exist.

[vetran]

If you were better educated you would understand that there is considerable debate about historiagraphy and that there is plenty of doubt about the competence of British army leadership especially in the first part of the war.
However the fact that you consider the Express worthy of quotation in a historical debate tells us all we need to know about your intellect and explains why most here, on all sides of the spectrum, totally ignore your stupid wittering.

I thought you were a bit of a stats expert??


Assuming that the "donkeys" were responsible for excessive deaths etc. due to incompetence the statistics would clearly indicate the worst military strategists among the major players?

The Great War . Resources . WWI Casualties and Deaths | PBS

Country	Total Mobilized Forces	Killed	Wounded	Prisoners and Missing	Total Casualties	Casualties as % of Forces
ALLIED AND ASSOCIATED POWERS
Russia	12,000,000	1,700,000	4,950,000	2,500,000	9,150,000	76.3
British Empire	8,904,467	908,371	2,090,212	191,652	3,190,235	35.8
France	8,410,000	1,357,800	4,266,000	537,000	6,160,800	73.3
Italy	5,615,000	650,000	947,000	600,000	2,197,000	39.1
United States	4,355,000	116,516	204,002	4,500	323,018	7.1
Japan	800,000	300	907	3	1,210	0.2
Romania	750,000	335,706	120,000	80,000	535,706	71.4
Serbia	707,343	45,000	133,148	152,958	331,106	46.8
Belgium	267,000	13,716	44,686	34,659	93,061	34.9
Greece	230,000	5,000	21,000	1,000	27,000	11.7
Portugal	100,000	7,222	13,751	12,318	33,291	33.3
Montenegro	50,000	3,000	10,000	7,000	20,000	40.0
TOTAL	42,188,810	5,142,631	12,800,706	4,121,090	22,062,427	52.3
ALLIED AND ASSOCIATED POWERS
Germany	11,000,000	1,773,700	4,216,058	1,152,800	7,142,558	64.9
Austria-Hungary	7,800,000	1,200,000	3,620,000	2,200,000	7,020,000	90.0
Turkey	2,850,000	325,000	400,000	250,000	975,000	34.2
Bulgaria	1,200,000	87,500	152,390	27,029	266,919	22.2
TOTAL	22,850,000	3,386,200	8,388,448	3,629,829	15,404,477	67.4
GRAND TOTAL	65,038,810	8,528,831	21,189,154	7,750,919	37,466,904	57.5

So British deaths & casualties by mobilised forces 35.8% were nearly half in percentage compared to Germany 64.9%. What where the Germans led by? The French were at 73.3% yet they were on the same major battlefields as us for the majority of the war. death wise it was British 10.2% chance of death. German 16.1% French 16.1% So the Lions had 6% fewer dying must have been a mistake the generals didn't kill enough to keep up with the others. There are plenty of other stats to look at if you want.

Using the express was meant to trigger your arrogance and as usual it worked you attacked the messenger not the facts

[sasguru]

Wittering away while NHS staff die due to government incompetence.

Your stupidity is different class, even on a forum full of thickos.
But never mind, eh, musn't grumble.

[vetran]

Oh. Let me guess. Vetran, right?

Thanks I am right and backed by the Beeb and a number of historians.

BBC - History -
World Wars: The Western Front: Lions Led by Donkeys?

One undeniable fact is that Britain and its allies, not Germany, won the First World War. Moreover, Haig's army played the leading role in defeating the German forces in the crucial battles of 1918. In terms of the numbers of German divisions engaged, the numbers of prisoners and guns captured, the importance of the stakes and the toughness of the enemy, the 1918 'Hundred Days' campaign rates as the greatest series of victories in British history.
Even the Somme (1916) and Passchendaele (1917), battles that have become by-words for murderous futility, not only had sensible strategic rationales but qualified as British strategic successes, not least in the amount of attritional damage they inflicted on the Germans. No one denies that the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) had a bloody learning curve, or that generals made mistakes that had catastrophic consequences. However, before dismissing the generals as mere incompetent buffoons, we must establish the context.

There is no doubt we could of done better (Gallipoli had Bojo's relative in it) but most sensible people recognise the figures tell the story quite well.

I look forward to assgoo proving his case but as he is insulting people he is probably just warming up.

[vetran]

Your stupidity is different class, even on a forum full of thickos.
But never mind, eh, musn't grumble.

Sorry did you need to borrow the crayons?

I must agree with you that the current situation in the NHS is terrible, I assume the experts they used were the same calibre as you?

[sasguru]

Thanks I am right and backed by the Beeb and a number of historians.

BBC - History -
World Wars: The Western Front: Lions Led by Donkeys?



There is no doubt we could of done better (Gallipoli had Bojo's relative in it) but most sensible people recognise the figures tell the story quite well.

I look forward to assgoo proving his case but as he is insulting people he is probably just warming up.

Keep digging. It's what morons do. But why not start another thread to bore everyone with ?
This one is about the present and govt. incompetence in managing Covid.