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    Quote Originally Posted by BR14 View Post
    the HMC has a web GUI now, too.
    scary
    cheers for that link,might have a play.
    Was using the new one on a z15 last week. We actually wrote an interface into the HMC so you didn't need to use the IBM web GUI as it was too complex for what we were doing. We just wanted to change memory and amount and type of processors quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post

    The absolute joy when the rubber band holding the card deck together finally rots & they cascade all over the floor.
    Ah but doubtless you would have made a diagonal line across the top of the stack with a felt pen, so they'd be easy to sort!

    I remember a batch compiler system, where you would feed a Cobol program into the card reader for overnight compilation and check the results the next morning, only to find you had omitted a full stop somewhere and the compile had failed!

    I heard of someone who spent hours and hours trying to debug a Cobol program by poring over printouts, baffled at how it could possibly fail, until eventually they twigged that one full stop was a small blemish in the paper and wasn't actually in the program!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Ah but doubtless you would have made a diagonal line across the top of the stack with a felt pen, so they'd be easy to sort!

    I remember a batch compiler system, where you would feed a Cobol program into the card reader for overnight compilation and check the results the next morning, only to find you had omitted a full stop somewhere and the compile had failed!

    I heard of someone who spent hours and hours trying to debug a Cobol program by poring over printouts, baffled at how it could possibly fail, until eventually they twigged that one full stop was a small blemish in the paper and wasn't actually in the program!
    We had a nice lady at Ferranti who was very adept at sorting punch cards with a knitting needle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Ah but doubtless you would have made a diagonal line across the top of the stack with a felt pen, so they'd be easy to sort!
    The card deck would have been SQCMed to put line numbers from 73 to 80 if it was source code or PGS (program image).

    But it was still a pain in the arse.

    Mostly quicker to repunch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    You are still using a strain of OS/2 today if you use modern windows.

    OS/2 - Wikipedia

    First time I saw OS/2 it was obviously the future, OS/3 which was based on an illicit night of passion with VMS and became NT.

    Thing that made the difference was NT 3.51 was much cheaper than OS/2 or Netware. One could have a server (normally a workstation with go faster stripes not a real sever that came later) that ran pretty well as a workstation for a few hundred quid. Combine that with M$ getting in bed with Dell & HP for drivers it was a no brainer. No hunting for the right premium card to run under OS/2 or Netware.
    I was at IBM Hursley Park working on OS/2 for a while. The IBM version, obvs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR14 View Post
    no.
    i've kept up, which is why i'm working with the latest software and hardware.
    and not that toytown windows/apple/android crap either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    Ah, not playing with diodes any more then grandpa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post
    The absolute joy when the rubber band holding the card deck together finally rots & they cascade all over the floor.
    Just back from the punching bureau, 1500 lines of your finest COBOL ordered sequentially on punched cards. Senior op goes to load it into card reader watched by said programmer, fake tumbles and the whole lot goes on the floor. Cue apoplectic developer fit, then twenty seconds later he wondered why we were all doubled up laughing.

    Sight unseen, just prior, the cards had been switched out for jumbled up old ones.

    What wags we were.


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