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    #71
    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    Maybe you will be fine, and then kill your close family. But hey, be brave, who cares.
    I have to accept its a possibility...

    You have the same possibility unless you are staying in your house forever ? and even then, there is a chance...

    How will you sleep at night ?

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      #72
      Originally posted by dx4100 View Post
      I have to accept its a possibility...

      You have the same possibility unless you are staying in your house forever ? and even then, there is a chance...

      How will you sleep at night ?
      Or you can stay at home unless you are a key worker and keep everyone safe, but like everything else, it's all about you isn't it?
      First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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        #73
        Originally posted by WTFH View Post
        Tell me, what's the evidence of immunity?
        How long does it last for?
        Does it depend on the viral load/health, etc?

        The initial thought (back in the days when our glorious leader and his sidekick, Boris, were touting "herd immunity" and shaking hands everywhere) was that once you had it, you could never ever get it again. This was based on politics, not science.
        The evidence does not seem as clear cut.

        Perhaps we'll end up with the same immunity that we have to that other coronavirus related illness - the common cold.
        It wasn't clear very recently, but the prospect of immediately being reinfected was mostly disproven by scientists (you can never be 100% certain), at least, blaming poor testing on flagging false reinfections ( Re-infection with SARS-CoV-2 | Australian Academy of Science )

        Nobody knows how long antibodies will last, but it's guessed short to medium term.

        The economy is sinking into a black hole, if gran doesn't die from covid she'll die when the government has no money to pay her winter fuel allowance.

        Some articles about herd immunity, which is Sweden's plan: Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Will Soon Be the World’s | Foreign Affairs
        Last edited by FIERCE TANK BATTLE; 13 May 2020, 16:54.

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          #74
          “Edmund: Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

          George: What was that, sir?

          Edmund: It was bollocks.”

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            #75
            Originally posted by _V_ View Post
            Or you can stay at home unless you are a key worker and keep everyone safe, but like everything else, it's all about you isn't it?
            So no one ever works again outside their own homes ? except key workers of course ? Who you are happy to expose so you can buy your bottle of merlot and fags.

            Great thinking dumbass...

            Its not all about me ... its about raising tax revenue so we can afford doctors and nurses etc etc
            Last edited by dx4100; 13 May 2020, 17:51.

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              #76
              Originally posted by WTFH View Post
              Perhaps we'll end up with the same immunity that we have to that other coronavirus related illness - the common cold.
              Not quite the same - there are hundreds of strains of the common cold, so just because you've had one strain won't stop you from getting a different strain the following week.

              Better to compare cov-19 to SARS or MERS. The evidence from both of these is that, once exposed, you are then immune for a period of time, but this period is not consistent; could be a few months, could be longer.

              There have been zero people who have been infected by SARS or MERS, recovered, then reinfected at a later date. But then, with MERS the death rate is much higher than cov-19 so not many survived in the first place, so not much of a population to get re-infected!

              Based on the evidence currently available, someone who has been infected and recovers, from cov-19 is unlikely to be reinfected if exposed to the virus again. Of course, like all these things, this is based on what we know today; a black swan 'didn't exist' until a human first set eyes on one
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #77
                It’s not a plan. Just a short term fix. You relieve pressure on the NHS. But money is running out. There is no Covid exit strategy. This means the government has no options, except hope for a vaccine. They will have to let everyone go back to work, and take their chances. If Covid returns, they cannot afford to keep having lockdowns.

                My opinion is, the lockdown may have been a waste of money, if the vaccine does not come soon. If it does come soon, lockdown would
                have been justified. Of course, the government needed to buy time to think.

                The government should have shut down air travel, tested and quarantined passengers on 28/1, as the world health organisation suggested. They did nothing until mid March. Their chance to contain Covid was
                Missed.


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                  #78
                  i think better treatments is probably the most likely win.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    Not quite the same - there are hundreds of strains of the common cold, so just because you've had one strain won't stop you from getting a different strain the following week.

                    Better to compare cov-19 to SARS or MERS. The evidence from both of these is that, once exposed, you are then immune for a period of time, but this period is not consistent; could be a few months, could be longer.

                    There have been zero people who have been infected by SARS or MERS, recovered, then reinfected at a later date. But then, with MERS the death rate is much higher than cov-19 so not many survived in the first place, so not much of a population to get re-infected!

                    Based on the evidence currently available, someone who has been infected and recovers, from cov-19 is unlikely to be reinfected if exposed to the virus again. Of course, like all these things, this is based on what we know today; a black swan 'didn't exist' until a human first set eyes on one
                    I accept that, but we're only not he start of the journey with this virus, so we don't know how many strains of it there will be.
                    Also comparing to SARS or MERS isn't that reliable.
                    SARS lasted 2 years and globally there were about 8,000 cases with 800 deaths
                    MERS is still going after 8 years, but only 2,500 cases and 900 deaths globally.
                    CV-19 is 6 months old and already at 4.4million cases and 298,000 deaths
                    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                      I accept that, but we're only not he start of the journey with this virus, so we don't know how many strains of it there will be.
                      Also comparing to SARS or MERS isn't that reliable.
                      SARS lasted 2 years and globally there were about 8,000 cases with 800 deaths
                      MERS is still going after 8 years, but only 2,500 cases and 900 deaths globally.
                      CV-19 is 6 months old and already at 4.4million cases and 298,000 deaths
                      I think they should pile the bodies of the 300,000 dead outside the houses of those that think it's just flu and money, tax and all that bollox matters. Money doesn't matter, we can print trillions per seconds. Money doesn't exist, it's an illusion, a number in a computer.

                      Millions are going to die, unless everyone minimises travel and contact.

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