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    Absolutely shocking video of Minnesota Police 'killing' George Floyd - whilst being filmed.
    Never seen restraining suspects by the neck used by the Police. Really bad.

    Really shocking and then it becomes a sad reflection of good police officers and all about race.
    I feel this story has a way to go....

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    I’m surprised that Minestrone didn’t post this story, or hasn’t explained how it’s all fake and the guy lay down then pushed his own neck into the policeman’s knee
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    Quote Originally Posted by saptastic View Post
    Absolutely shocking video of Minnesota Police 'killing' George Floyd - whilst being filmed.
    Never seen restraining suspects by the neck used by the Police. Really bad.

    Really shocking and then it becomes a sad reflection of good police officers and all about race.
    I feel this story has a way to go....
    Fookin truly appalling. Should be done for manslaughter. I think we live in a bit of a bubble in the UK as multi-culturalism is, on the whole, working pretty well. I certainly forget how bad some parts of the world still are ... parts of the US unfortunately are still stuck in the past. Very sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whorty View Post
    Fookin truly appalling. Should be done for manslaughter. I think we live in a bit of a bubble in the UK as multi-culturalism is, on the whole, working pretty well. I certainly forget how bad some parts of the world still are ... parts of the US unfortunately are still stuck in the past. Very sad.
    You maybe in a bubble.

    The police in the UK use to be just as bad and Covid-19 shows they are falling back into their bad habits.
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    But the US attitudes to race are markedly different from those in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    You maybe in a bubble.

    The police in the UK use to be just as bad and Covid-19 shows they are falling back into their bad habits.
    Just to get this clear the Police officers involved in this case seem to have been at fault whether that is due to malice, stupidity or poor training if you have ever tried to restrain someone its very risky for both parties. I am glad they have been fired and suspect they will be prosecuted and a court not public opinion will decide their fate after reading all the evidence.

    Hmm SueEllen the figures disagree.

    List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

    48 since 2000 many were armed or insane. this is out of a population of 66.65 million so you have a risk of 0.72 per million head of dying in police custody.

    List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States - Wikipedia

    3881 since 2000 out of a population of 328.2 so 11.83 per million.

    This is death regardless of ethnicity but still the UK are clearly 10 times better than the US at not killing / letting die citizens.

    Now I suspect there may be proportionally more BAME suspects killed in the US and maybe even in the UK but remember proportionally more BAME suspects are stopped and detained in both countries.

    One does have to note that the Met is the highest user of stop & search in England and BAME persons are 50% of the population so that is less surprising in the UK.

    As prisons have proportionally more BAME individuals maybe there is an issue, though its difficult to believe that the Police (now wearing body cams and after root & branch reform) CPS & Judiciary are all significantly racist and that someone is managing to cover that up.

    I assume you are referring to the fact a significant proportion of those accused by the police of breaking lock down are BAME. Again I am not sure how you believe any police officer believes how he would get away with any discernible racism wearing a body cam and with proper scrutiny. I am not seeing the prosecutions I would expect & support which the human rights lawyers would raise if there was any evidence however slim. It may be significantly more poor people are BAME and unlike milky white Tory spin doctors don't have a garden or even a holiday home so may move into parks to avoid the four walls.

    It is interesting to note that under the guise of protesting an unjust death some people choose to pick up cheap TV just like in the UK with Mark Duggan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    You maybe in a bubble.

    The police in the UK use to be just as bad and Covid-19 shows they are falling back into their bad habits.
    They are not just as bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    You maybe in a bubble.

    The police in the UK use to be just as bad and Covid-19 shows they are falling back into their bad habits.
    I don't think that is right. Bad stuff, sure. US style? No.
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    Don't go wandering around with a table leg wrapped in a bin bag & you should be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post
    Don't go wandering around with a table leg wrapped in a bin bag & you should be ok.
    Such stupidity (on both sides) seems mercifully rare.

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