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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Greg View Post
    Look up ethnicity. Consider that some Jewish people do not follow the Jewish religion. Accept that the subject is rather more nuanced than you think.
    And if by "nuanced" you mean "interpreted to support the biases of the beholder", then yeah, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybiro View Post
    And if by "nuanced" you mean "interpreted to support the biases of the beholder", then yeah, sure.
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    Casual racism was almost mandatory until 40 years.

    Times have changed. How can we judge historic people by today's standards?
    By 50s standards, most people going to work in an office are scruffy feckers.

    If what he said was inappropriate for his day, that's one thing.

    Cyril Smith shagging kids would never be regarded as acceptable (give or take certain religions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post

    Cyril Smith shagging kids would never be regarded as acceptable (give or take certain religions).
    Yeah, do priests still get up to that all the time, or is it not reported as much since the 1990s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Yeah, do priests still get up to that all the time, or is it not reported as much since the 1990s?

    apparently sadly they do:

    Catholic Church sexual abuse cases - Wikipedia

    In 2014, the Permanent Representative of the Holy See to the UN, Silvano Maria Tomasi, appeared before the Committee against Torture and reported that during the previous ten years, 3420 cases of abuse against minors had been investigated and 884 priests had been removed from their positions and reduced to lay status.[51] Allegations of and convictions for sexual abuse by clergy have occurred in many countries. There are no accurate figures available on the number of sexual abuse cases in different regions. But, in 2002 The Boston Globe reported, "clearly the issue has been most prominent in the United States."[15] The US is the country with the highest number of reported Catholic sex abuse cases.[52]
    It does seem the church are at least working on it rather than blaming the victims as they did in the past..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Yeah, do priests still get up to that all the time, or is it not reported as much since the 1990s?
    Quite probably. They might even shag nuns if you dress them up as choirboys, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Well yeah, no discussion if it's our one. antisemitic racist
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