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Originally posted by woohoo View PostHard to tell really, lots of statues are black/bronze and I doubt they can read. So it's probably pot luck with that lot.Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe Nelson Mandela statue?
Personally, I think he managed to change an entire country, that's something to celebrate.Comment
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostI know a couple of South Africans that would consider him a terrorist.
Personally, I think he managed to change an entire country, that's something to celebrate.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostWhen I lived in SA I came across a number of Afrikaners with strong views. Some very nasty people who would make Tommy Robinson appear as a moderate. Specifically up north, it feels at times like Apartheid is not completely gone.Comment
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostThese guys are not nasty tbf and just pointed out some historical facts about Africa, including Mandela, Boer war that i didn't know about at the time.
I had to take one guy out on a game drive, so spent some 'quality' time with him that day. Unfortunately I wasn't in a position to kick him out the Land Rover so had to listen to his carp. He truly believed that the white man is superior, and black men are a separate inferior species. No kidding! He had some pretty meaty thoughts on gays too, that he liked to quote from the Bible (Aftikaners tend to be extremely religious).
He was a pro golfer and said he'd love to move to the UK to work ... I put him off but reminding him that we are quite a relaxed country and it's not uncommon to see men walking down roads in London hand in hand, and certainly mixed race families is common. I thought he was going to explode He couldn't comprehend the thought of mixed race couples!
Thankfully the UK is far more progressive than many countries in the world, but the negative reaction to BLM shows we still have a way to go before racism is completely eradicated.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostThis will be 'their' facts. what they are taught in the white schools, and not necessarily full facts. I spent a lot of time with some of these guys in SA, and what they spout, based on what they are taught in school, is frightening.
I had to take one guy out on a game drive, so spent some 'quality' time with him that day. Unfortunately I wasn't in a position to kick him out the Land Rover so had to listen to his carp. He truly believed that the white man is superior, and black men are a separate inferior species. No kidding! He had some pretty meaty thoughts on gays too, that he liked to quote from the Bible (Aftikaners tend to be extremely religious).
He was a pro golfer and said he'd love to move to the UK to work ... I put him off but reminding him that we are quite a relaxed country and it's not uncommon to see men walking down roads in London hand in hand, and certainly mixed race families is common. I thought he was going to explode He couldn't comprehend the thought of mixed race couples!
Thankfully the UK is far more progressive than many countries in the world, but the negative reaction to BLM shows we still have a way to go before racism is completely eradicated.Comment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostAnd in Kigali they have a genocide museum with no holds bared reflecting on what happened there and why we shouldn't forget it. I've visited Kigali and the genocide sites - harrowing!
And, one key point about the trigger for this, was how the white colonial power created the divisions in Rwanda. Nose shape! So even for this genocide the white colonials were not innocent.But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the youngerComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostThis will be 'their' facts. what they are taught in the white schools, and not necessarily full facts. I spent a lot of time with some of these guys in SA, and what they spout, based on what they are taught in school, is frightening.
The most racist thing I've heard was when I dropped off an Indian colleague at the train station. He did not like Pakistanis.Comment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostThis will be 'their' facts. what they are taught in the white schools, and not necessarily full facts. I spent a lot of time with some of these guys in SA, and what they spout, based on what they are taught in school, is frightening.
I had to take one guy out on a game drive, so spent some 'quality' time with him that day. Unfortunately I wasn't in a position to kick him out the Land Rover so had to listen to his carp. He truly believed that the white man is superior, and black men are a separate inferior species. No kidding! He had some pretty meaty thoughts on gays too, that he liked to quote from the Bible (Aftikaners tend to be extremely religious).
He was a pro golfer and said he'd love to move to the UK to work ... I put him off but reminding him that we are quite a relaxed country and it's not uncommon to see men walking down roads in London hand in hand, and certainly mixed race families is common. I thought he was going to explode He couldn't comprehend the thought of mixed race couples!
Thankfully the UK is far more progressive than many countries in the world, but the negative reaction to BLM shows we still have a way to go before racism is completely eradicated.
I spent a week working over there a decade ago and its a complete shift, the whites and blacks are quite separate in many places and there is an undercurrent of awkwardness. I didn't hear any unpleasant views but I was working for a big American firm whose HR were big on equality (quite rightly). There was a mix of employees, I saw a lot more racism in Dubai.
Thankfully the UK is far more progressive than many countries in the world, but the negative reaction to BLM shows we still have a way to go before racism is completely eradicated.
I don't think people have been against the BLM peaceful protests except the stupidity of breaking lock down.
You do know the protest is being used by bad people as well to meet their aims so we should watch that. Nothing is totally good or bad in my experience.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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