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    #11
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    If you fiercely defend free speech, presumably you fiercely defend people abusing this young woman, and also people calling for a ban on Swing Low, Sweet Chariot being sung at rugby matches? in terms of the former of these, this shows you up to be a nasty little tulip.

    I cannot defend people racially abusing someone. Can you?

    Disagreeing with her politely of course. Showing her evidence to change her opinion by all means.

    People can call for banning swing low sweet chariot but only for valid reasons. To me it strikes me that a hymn written by an ex slave is a great way to show the pain & suffering plus the creativity of Wallace Willis.

    Swing Low, Sweet Chariot meaning: What's the history of the song and why is it under review? | London Evening Standard

    Sorry no Mancunian Slaver link that I liked!

    If we are going to rip down all the statues lets sing joyously together!
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #12
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      I cannot defend people racially abusing someone. Can you?
      Not me. Not you. But Mr Donut fiercely defends their freedom of speech.

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        #13
        Originally posted by cojak View Post
        I’m assuming incompetence.

        If that is what happened then indeed it is worrying. But I don’t trust the Mail Online. It is a racist, click-bait site whose main business model is to be outrageous.

        If you find another (reliable) source for this article then I would care, but for now I don’t.

        Maybe the renowned Manchester slavers Guardian? No they don't seem to have picked up on this.

        The Guardian facing calls to '''shut down''' over founder'''s use of slaves and siding against Lincoln in US Civil War

        THE GUARDIAN is facing calls to “shut down” for hypocrisy after backing BLM protests when it branded Abraham Lincoln “abhorrent” in the US Civil War.
        Originally called the Manchester Guardian, the paper was founded in 1821 by John Edward Taylor using profits from a cotton plantation that used slaves.


        She was interviewed by Mike Graham on TalkRadio.

        YouTube

        Having watched it the lady seems to make sense.

        You would have thought an intelligent and concise commenter who was black would get a platform in this situation Labour seem woefully short of current or ex MPs that have a sensible comment but Cereal watch out! I enjoyed listening and she made a lot of sense. Especially as she is suggesting the BLM movement is a trojan horse for anti capitalism and socialism. She was also fairly clear about the stupidity of congregating in their thousands with COVID-19.

        But she is part of Turning point UK a conservative counter to some of the far left lobby groups.

        As she says go on the BLM website & read.

        Briefing – Black Lives Matter Movement

        seems a bit US centric on the UK website.

        We support the fight for reforms as they can and do make a difference to people’s lives but they are not enough and can be rolled back.Consider the US itself where the CRM was a heroic struggle which led to civil rights and voting rights legislation. In its aftermath there was a great focus on electing Black and ethnic minority leader – “getting “black faces in high places”. The culmination of this was the election of Barack Obama in 2008.
        What did Obama’s eight years in office really achieve? In response to Floyd’s death, Obama has said that institutional racism should not be “normal” in 2020 and has called for Americans to “come together to heal the legacy of bigotry.”
        Yet, BLM was established during Obama’s presidency precisely because he failed to deliver on the hopes invested in him.
        Across America black police chiefs and mayors preside over racist police departments and declining inner cities. In a changed from the past there is now a deep class divide in the black community.
        The black middle class in the US has pulled up the advancement ladder behind them and left the black working class high and dry.
        This explains Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta’s rant against “rioters”. This explains Muriel Bowser’s nice gestures with paint and road renaming while voting to increase the police budget.
        Sadly the black middle class and the US Congressional Black Caucus are guilty, unwittingly or otherwise, of helping to pave the way for the mass incarceration of black men in the US.
        Although just 12% of the overall population, black people make up 40% of the jail population in the US. Police killings are the tip of an iceberg of racial injustice.
        The attached table shows the killings year on year highlights this:

        She has a number of interviews that seem OK

        YouTube
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          #14
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          Maybe the renowned Manchester slavers Guardian? No they don't seem to have picked up on this.

          The Guardian facing calls to '''shut down''' over founder'''s use of slaves and siding against Lincoln in US Civil War





          She was interviewed by Mike Graham on TalkRadio.

          YouTube

          Having watched it the lady seems to make sense.

          You would have thought an intelligent and concise commenter who was black would get a platform in this situation Labour seem woefully short of current or ex MPs that have a sensible comment but Cereal watch out! I enjoyed listening and she made a lot of sense. Especially as she is suggesting the BLM movement is a trojan horse for anti capitalism and socialism. She was also fairly clear about the stupidity of congregating in their thousands with COVID-19.

          But she is part of Turning point UK a conservative counter to some of the far left lobby groups.

          As she says go on the BLM website & read.

          Briefing – Black Lives Matter Movement

          seems a bit US centric on the UK website.




          She has a number of interviews that seem OK

          YouTube
          Turning Point seem like the usual bunch of Trumpian charmers. Turning Point USA accused of ‘boosting their numbers with racists’ by long-established conservative student group | Southern Poverty Law Center

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            #15

            Ah that would be the US?

            If the are going down that route it is sad. The Lady seemed very sensible. Lets hope the UK org is different.
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #16
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              What is it - annual try out for wanna be War and Peace writers?

              Oh sorry - TL: DR - you are a squirrel loving pervert.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #17
                Everything You Need To Know About The Launch of Turning Point UK – HOPE not hate
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                Ah that would be the US?

                If the are going down that route it is sad. The Lady seemed very sensible. Lets hope the UK org is different.
                Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon
                Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                  #18
                  unbelievable, someone who BLM is supposed to represent calls it out for what it is and the residents stalinists still provide their unwavering support, calling anyone who dares provide some objective reasoning and evidence racist.

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                    #19
                    I think all violent armed robbers should be treated equally. Let Justice have its day!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mrdonuts View Post
                      unbelievable, someone who BLM is supposed to represent calls it out for what it is and the residents stalinists still provide their unwavering support, calling anyone who dares provide some objective reasoning and evidence racist.
                      Do you have some kind of filter in your brain that removes reality from everything you perceive? Because it would explain a post like that.

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