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Originally posted by HoofHearted View PostNot revered perhaps, but what about those who recognised the error of their ways, repented, and used their accumulated wealth to right their wrongs and benefit the community rather than themselves? Surely recognising the error of their ways and making amends is a positive thing?
Yes, the likes of Coulston (sic) paid for a lot in Bristol but the only beneficiaries were white - none of the black lives that suffered under slavery benefited by his actions directly.
Nice try thoughI am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostWrong. But then, given your attitude I'm guessing your 'sources' are right wing and not very accurate
Consequences of the slave trade - The triangular slave trade - KS3 History Revision - BBC Bitesize
Others suggest an even higher figure
British Involvement in the Transatlantic Slave Trade: The Abolition of Slavery Project
From government archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/s...-the-trade.pdf
I meerly pointed out that this was factually incorrect which appears to have triggered your left wing guilt for past injustices complex
I prefer to use local resources such as National Library of Jamaica rather than the BBC who are not known for their impartiality anymore
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Originally posted by Colour Sergeant Bourne View PostThe assertion was that "The British, for example, moved millions of people out of Africa and into Jamaica to fuel their obsession for sugar" not the total number of slaves shipped by the British to anywhere ever
I meerly pointed out that this was factually incorrect which appears to have triggered your left wing guilt for past injustices complex
I prefer to use local resources such as National Library of Jamaica rather than the BBC who are not known for their impartiality anymore
HTH
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Originally posted by Colour Sergeant Bourne View PostThe assertion was that "The British, for example, moved millions of people out of Africa and into Jamaica to fuel their obsession for sugar" not the total number of slaves shipped by the British to anywhere ever
I meerly pointed out that this was factually incorrect which appears to have triggered your left wing guilt for past injustices complex
I prefer to use local resources such as National Library of Jamaica rather than the BBC who are not known for their impartiality anymore
HTH
I have no guilt for past injustices, but equally I'm not jingoistic about Britain's 'glory' days of Empire.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostTowards the end of their lives they became 'philanthropists', mainly to appease their god and pay their way into heaven. I don't think they really saw the error of their ways, and the victims of the slavery certainly didn't benefit in any way. They were still slaves in the West Indies ... now, had they used their wealth to buy out the slaves and set them up as freemen in the UK I would buy your argument mate, but no, they still did not care about the slaves, they only cared for their own 'immortal' souls.
Yes, the likes of Coulston (sic) paid for a lot in Bristol but the only beneficiaries were white - none of the black lives that suffered under slavery benefited by his actions directly.
Nice try though
You know slavery was legal then?
My understanding is that he did not feel he had committed any sin by being a slaver, he just sold some of his shares to William of Orange, had no heirs so decided to create a legacy via good works so he was remembered. Slaves were not considered equals or fellow human beings by almost all who traded in them, be they Westerners, easterners, Arabs or Africans.
By today's standards it is vile and totally unacceptable but then everyone was doing it to each other.
I look forward to statues of Marlboro & Esso executives being pulled down in 100 years.
My parents drove me round in cars without seat belts when I was a kid. Should they pay for this sin? Should car manufacturers who charged extra for seatbelts be broken up as it is now obvious making a car without a seatbelt was bordering on criminal negligence?Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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trying to make "white" people the sole scapegoats for this vile trade is clearly ridiculous and shows a complete ignorance of history. It does nothing to foster a more peaceful societyComment
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Originally posted by mrdonuts View PostIt does nothing to foster a more peaceful societyComment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostYour posts with large font size certainly not helpingWhen the fun stops, STOP.Comment
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