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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostIt isn't just the feel-good factor. A lot of pension funds are invested up to the neck in property, although mostly commercial I think.Comment
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The market is going to continue to appreciate? Is that the consensus here? Fascinating...
There's lots of mounting evidence the opposite will happen as banks continue to restrict lending while they prepare their defences for a slurry of bankruptcies. Even after a stock market crash you've still got the disaster that is Brexit for dessert.
Oh you lucky bas£$d."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostThe market is going to continue to appreciate? Is that the consensus here? Fascinating...
There's lots of mounting evidence the opposite will happen as banks continue to restrict lending while they prepare their defences for a slurry of bankruptcies. Even after a stock market crash you've still got the disaster that is Brexit for dessert.
Oh you lucky bas£$d.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostYou must have a very sad life if all you see around you is the negative. You sound like the life and soul of the party
People buy into this mindset. I was guilty of this mindset after the 2008 crash and missed out on 10 years of bull run in the US stock market.
Now I'm never tied to any mindset, but adjust my view day to day. I've applied this to trading and it's proving profitable.Comment
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostIt isn't just the feel-good factor. A lot of pension funds are invested up to the neck in property, although mostly commercial I think.
As for pension funds, this is commercial property linked to high streets and office blocks. Currently there is a stop on the sale of these in pension funds as the find managers are struggling to value commercial property.
So yes, they are linked albeit indirectly.
But, to go back to what I said previously, the government needs us to feel good so that we continue to waste our money of tat from the high street.
What's interesting though is those on here wanting a house crash so that they can get on the ladder won't be able to as lending costs will increase and hence the affordability of owning property will rise accordingly.
The graph below shows that whilst UK property prices are high, the affordability was way lower in 2015 compared to it's recent high of 2007. This graph is from 2015 and I can't find a more recent one but the housing market hasn't moved that much in the last 5 years so it's probably a good indicator.
I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostYou must have a very sad life if all you see around you is the negative. You sound like the life and soul of the party
Don't hate the messenger, hate the game."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostDoom sells as they say. There's so many ebooks, youtube channels, news letters etc all around the premise of stock market crashes, dollar collapse, property price collapse, commodity price collapse, you name it.
People buy into this mindset. I was guilty of this mindset after the 2008 crash and missed out on 10 years of bull run in the US stock market.
Now I'm never tied to any mindset, but adjust my view day to day. I've applied this to trading and it's proving profitable.
Trends are not established day-to-day. The pickle the world is now in is a continuation of the massive failure of Western governments of not acting in 2007. Instead they poured petrol on the fire and created more debt.
Banging on for years - DEBT is the problem. The locals will be along shortly though, they'll argue the wonders of debt and how it's good for us."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
Banging on for years - DEBT is the problem. The locals will be along shortly though, they'll argue the wonders of debt and how it's good for us.Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
Trends are not established day-to-day. The pickle the world is now in is a continuation of the massive failure of Western governments of not acting in 2007. Instead they poured petrol on the fire and created more debt.
Banging on for years - DEBT is the problem. The locals will be along shortly though, they'll argue the wonders of debt and how it's good for us.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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