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Developer, data science jobs: US tech is taking a worse hit than other sectors

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    #11
    Originally posted by edison View Post
    Not all companies are in survival mode, some are doing very nicely at the moment.

    I'm not sure if Data Scientist is still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century' but long term, I reckon the employment prospects for data scientists and IT management are probably a lot better than IT Operations and Help Desk or even software development.
    Of course not all firms are in survival mode, that's why those jobs are down 45% or whatever it was and not 100%.

    Maybe? Maybe not. I don't know. I personally believe data science is a transitional movement. I don't think it will last long. I could write a lot about it but probably not the thread for it.

    It's easy for lots of companies to roll IT Management up into Finance or Operations or just let a tech lead or Project Manager to take on those responsibilities while the firm is suffering.

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      #12
      Originally posted by edison View Post
      Not all companies are in survival mode, some are doing very nicely at the moment.

      I'm not sure if Data Scientist is still the 'sexiest job of the 21st century' but long term, I reckon the employment prospects for data scientists and IT management are probably a lot better than IT Operations and Help Desk or even software development.
      So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #13
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?
        Suity.

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          #14
          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?
          Reminds me of some years ago when I reported a bug at client co. Following procedures, I sent a bug-report to the USA HQ who confirmed it. The bug-report was then forwarded to the India Dev Team. Three weeks later, the India Dev Team sent me an email and asked me how do we fix it.
          "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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            #15
            Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
            Throw Thorin at Chatbot
            hmm this?

            Thorin BV - Home

            possibly a bit ambitious right now. It will be done at some level of course.

            UPS for instance launched a chatbot as ~80% of their customer service enquiries were WISMO much like other service & supply companies. Guess what their agents are free to do other things with the 50% of their time they did WISMO queries.

            Checking your account balance via interactive agents both voice & online is perfectly normal yet if you want your drug money laundered the Bank still does that via a human.
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #16
              Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
              So who is going to write the software for the data scientists to use? Who are the data scientists going to call when their e-mail client doesn't work?
              Hadoop & R etc are already out there. The cloud stuff is catching up.

              Everyone is going to Office 365/Google. The Infrastructure turkeys (or their bosses) are voting for XMAS.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #17
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                hmm this?

                Thorin BV - Home

                possibly a bit ambitious right now. It will be done at some level of course.

                UPS for instance launched a chatbot as ~80% of their customer service enquiries were WISMO much like other service & supply companies. Guess what their agents are free to do other things with the 50% of their time they did WISMO queries.

                Checking your account balance via interactive agents both voice & online is perfectly normal yet if you want your drug money laundered the Bank still does that via a human.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Old Greg View Post

                  So basically a chatbot adventure? You been sniffing Barmy's cocoa again?
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    So basically a chatbot adventure? You been sniffing Barmy's cocoa again?
                    You cannot sniff Barmy's cheap brown cocoa.

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                      #20
                      most of the infrastructure jobs will be gone due to cloud computing in the next 2-3 years
                      say goodbye to dba, storage admin, unix admin , network admin jobs

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