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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostWould you rather earn £200 per week and pay no tax, or £5,000 per week and pay 55% tax? Hypothetically of course.Comment
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Originally posted by elsergiovolador View PostIf I had a capacity to earn £5000 a week, I would start looking for a country that doesn't play Robin Hood.Comment
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The UK is signed up to the Government Procurement Agreeement which is part of WTO rules, i.e. the UK opens up its procurement to other countries and so has access to overseas contracts. If Britain goes "North Korea" it might be able to safeguard a few hundred jobs in a British shipyard but will lose thousands of jobs dependent on overseas contracts.
Not a good idea.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by SimonMac View PostSo labour wants to overpay for a fleet of ships so it can prop up it's union paymasters by keeping their subs rolling in?Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThe UK is signed up to the Government Procurement Agreeement which is part of WTO rules, i.e. the UK opens up its procurement to other countries and so has access to overseas contracts. If Britain goes "North Korea" it might be able to safeguard a few hundred jobs in a British shipyard but will lose thousands of jobs dependent on overseas contracts.
Not a good idea.
Has the following exemption...
Article III — Security and General Exceptions
Nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent any Party from taking any action or not disclosing any information that it considers necessary for the protection of its essential security interests relating to the procurement of arms, ammunition or war materials, or to procurement indispensable for national security or for national defence purposes.
Subject to the requirement that such measures are not applied in a manner that would constitute a means of arbitrary or unjustifiable discrimination between Parties where the same conditions prevail or a disguised restriction on international trade, nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent any Party from imposing or enforcing measures:
necessary to protect public morals, order or safety;
necessary to protect human, animal or plant life or health;
necessary to protect intellectual property; or
relating to goods or services of persons with disabilities, philanthropic institutions or prison labour.Comment
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Originally posted by RasputinDude View PostWhich as you can see here - WTO | legal texts - Revised Agreement on Government Procurement
Has the following exemption...
Article III — Security and General Exceptions
Nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent any Party from taking any action or not disclosing any information that it considers necessary for the protection of its essential security interests relating to the procurement of arms, ammunition or war materials, or to procurement indispensable for national security or for national defence purposes.
Subject to the requirement that such measures are not applied in a manner that would constitute a means of arbitrary or unjustifiable discrimination between Parties where the same conditions prevail or a disguised restriction on international trade, nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent any Party from imposing or enforcing measures:
necessary to protect public morals, order or safety;
necessary to protect human, animal or plant life or health;
necessary to protect intellectual property; or
relating to goods or services of persons with disabilities, philanthropic institutions or prison labour.
Would that be good for British Engineering companies that provide defence equipment all over the world, all of which are Government procurement contracts ?
UK defence and security export statistics for 2018 - GOV.UK
On a rolling 10 year basis, the UK remains the second largest global defence exporter after the USA.
In 2018, the UK won defence orders worth £14 billion, up on the previous year (£14 billion) and illustrative of the volatile nature of the global export market for defence.
Safeguard 200 jobs at an ailing ship builder and lose 2000 jobs in a top class defence exporter.Last edited by BlasterBates; 25 August 2020, 07:46.I'm alright JackComment
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From my experience of working in this sector, many other countries do infact already implement this sort of protectionism.
Don't get me wrong, I tend to think that the whole thing is a bad idea in general - largely because I don't trust trades unions not to try to exploit it, but I was specifically contesting your statement because there is actually a get out clause for national security in WTO rules.Comment
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Originally posted by RasputinDude View PostFrom my experience of working in this sector, many other countries do infact already implement this sort of protectionism.
I can't see the US accepting it given the reciprocal nature of the business.I'm alright JackComment
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