Dangerous Lies

[vetran]

Stupid boy. I Never said that. However, what should have happened is one the fire brigade had witnessed the fir was out of control, then the order should have been given to evacuee the building and not wait until the fire was raging on the internal of the top floor.

And how does that fit with standard procedure? The Flats are supposed to be cells and survive the fire for a time. The firemen put the fire out on the stairs then evacuate. Doing it before means lots of people in smoke filled stair wells with no air evac or sprinkler.

[Paddy]

And how does that fit with standard procedure? The Flats are supposed to be cells and survive the fire for a time. The firemen put the fire out on the stairs then evacuate. Doing it before means lots of people in smoke filled stair wells with no air evac or sprinkler.

If standard procedure don't work then entitative needs to be used on the ground or whoever is in command. I don't think there was a fire on the stairs as stairs must not have any combustible materials.

[vetran]

If standard procedure don't work then entitative needs to be used on the ground or whoever is in command. I don't think there was a fire on the stairs as stairs must not have any combustible materials.

Sorry possibly wasn't clear the firemen climb the stairs, put any fires out then lead people out. However the fire was too strong and the stairs were filled wit toxic smoke.

Grenfell was not designed to provide a safe escape route, say fire services | News | Building

Stephen Walsh QC, who is representing the London Fire Brigade, also said the building had not been designed to cater for a mass evacuation.Speaking to the inquiry yesterday he said: “Buildings such as Grenfell Tower were expressly designed so as to contain any fire in its compartment of origin.
“Accordingly, the building design is not intended to facilitate the simultaneous evacuation of the whole building.”

[vetran]

If standard procedure don't work then entitative needs to be used on the ground or whoever is in command. I don't think there was a fire on the stairs as stairs must not have any combustible materials.

Sorry possibly wasn't clear the firemen climb the stairs, put any fires out then lead people out. However the fire was too strong and the stairs were filled wit toxic smoke.

Grenfell was not designed to provide a safe escape route, say fire services | News | Building

Stephen Walsh QC, who is representing the London Fire Brigade, also said the building had not been designed to cater for a mass evacuation.Speaking to the inquiry yesterday he said: “Buildings such as Grenfell Tower were expressly designed so as to contain any fire in its compartment of origin.
“Accordingly, the building design is not intended to facilitate the simultaneous evacuation of the whole building.”

[DaveB]

Paddy, If you are going to accuse people of lying in reputation comments it's best to actually read the article they are referring to in the first place.

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[Paddy]

Paddy, If you are going to accuse people of lying in reputation comments it's best to actually read the article they are referring to in the first place.

If I gave you neg rep, it was in error; sorry. It was meant for another bozo.
PS I will give you a +ve to make it up to you.

[cojak]

If I gave you neg rep, it was in error; sorry. It was meant for another bozo.
PS I will give you a +ve to make it up to you.

It doesn’t alter the fact that you didn’t read the article.

Abuse in reputation WILL have consequences if reported.

Be aware.

[Old Greg]

It doesn’t alter the fact that you didn’t read the article.

Abuse in reputation WILL have consequences if reported.

Be aware.

Is there a statute of limitations?