Doom London Tier 2 from Saturday Doom London Tier 2 from Saturday
Page 1 of 6 123 ... LastLast
Posts 1 to 10 of 59
  1. #1

    Double Godlike!

    Paddy is a fount of knowledge

    Paddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    11,193

    Default Doom London Tier 2 from Saturday

    Doom London Tier 2 from Saturday

    Thank God for that, about time too.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

  2. #2

    Fingers like lightning

    PCTNN 's job has never been outsourced


    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    631

    Default

    Won't change much.

    People will still meet up outdoors.

    There need to be more deaths for people to start behaving appropriately. Give it a couple of months.

  3. #3

    More time posting than coding

    dsc is good enough for Jehovah!


    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    295

    Default

    Who the hell is going to enforce this? Police is going to go from door to door checking? this changes feck all imho. Besides with an average two week lag between transmission and hospitalisation, the numbers will keep going up regardless of what happens now.

  4. #4

    Double Godlike!

    Paddy is a fount of knowledge

    Paddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    11,193

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PCTNN View Post
    Won't change much.

    People will still meet up outdoors.

    There need to be more deaths for people to start behaving appropriately. Give it a couple of months.
    Quote Originally Posted by dsc View Post
    Who the hell is going to enforce this? Police is going to go from door to door checking? this changes feck all imho. Besides with an average two week lag between transmission and hospitalisation, the numbers will keep going up regardless of what happens now.
    In which case they can then move to Tier 3 and close the pubs etc
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

  5. #5

    Double Godlike!

    Mordac is a fount of knowledge

    Mordac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Civilisation-ish
    Posts
    10,524

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    In which case they can then move to Tier 3 and close the pubs etc
    Pubs are (generally) not the problem. Distancing, contact details, table service only etc are quite strictly enforced, from what I've seen.
    The problem is outside pubs, such as large house parties or other large gatherings of mostly teenagers.

    Tier 3 will be largely ignored by enough idiots that it will make no difference to the spread, while killing large swathes of the economy. Just my 2p worth.
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

  6. #6

    Double Godlike!

    Paddy is a fount of knowledge

    Paddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    11,193

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordac View Post
    Pubs are (generally) not the problem. Distancing, contact details, table service only etc are quite strictly enforced, from what I've seen.
    The problem is outside pubs, such as large house parties or other large gatherings of mostly teenagers.

    Tier 3 will be largely ignored by enough idiots that it will make no difference to the spread, while killing large swathes of the economy. Just my 2p worth.
    I agree with you however, coming out of pubs is a problem, social distancing disappears. The restricted opening hours have made it worse especially for those you go out with the intention of getting drunk who now mingle with late shoppers.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

  7. #7

    Super poster

    Andy2 's job has never been outsourced


    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    2,103

    Default

    Either you can wreck the economy with the lockdowns or save the economy and let some people die
    wrecking the economy will take more lives in the long term.

  8. #8

    Fingers like lightning

    PCTNN 's job has never been outsourced


    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    631

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    I agree with you however, coming out of pubs is a problem, social distancing disappears. The restricted opening hours have made it worse especially for those you go out with the intention of getting drunk who now mingle with late shoppers.
    The problem seems to be all the assh0les who want to party and get drunk, which they will do in house parties when the pubs eventually get shut. Everywhere there is booze, there's going to be gatherings and irresponsible behaviour.

    What else can be done? Maybe a tier 4 where we stop selling booze altogether? The whole country will be miserable but no booze no partying might stop the spread? No easy way out.

  9. #9

    My post count is Majestic

    SueEllen is always on top

    SueEllen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    in the Park
    Posts
    31,304

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy2 View Post
    Either you can wreck the economy with the lockdowns or save the economy and let some people die
    wrecking the economy will take more lives in the long term.
    Only if you are this government.

    If you are in NZ, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea or Vietnam you introduce very strict laws as soon as you hear of the virus rather than not attending COBRA meetings. You sort out your track and trace while doing so and your population seeing they aren't lead by charlatans and liars follow the public health guidence you give them.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

  10. #10

    My post count is Majestic

    AtW is always on top

    AtW's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    57,099

    Default

    From the "reopening" there should have been clear understanding that once infection rates reach level X then national lockdown happens again until rates drop to level Y.

    6 weeks of (strict!) lockdown might reset rates low enough to limp over to Spring by which at least some vaccines should be made available.

    2 weeks won't be enough, totally pointless.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •