Doom: English Lockdown

[Paddy]

I have changed my mind about lockdown in the UK. It only works if the vast majority stick to it; they don't and they won't and it is not being enforced. I think there should be compulsory face masks in public with heavy fines for non compliance with no lockdown and let everyone take their extra precautions and not be forced to travel to work where there are facilities to work from home.

A good recipe that really works in preventing virus is to drink a litre of whisky; you then become too pi$$ed to go outside.

[AtW]

There is no alternative to strict lockdown now - should be 6 weeks at least, very strictly enforced - then we might just have to endure Jan-Feb relatively easy, so next spike will be in more favourable (for humans) conditions - spring

[Andy2]

its a half hearted lockdown. Schools and Univ. will be open where there have been thousands of cases.

[AtW]

its a half hearted lockdown. Schools and Univ. will be open where there have been thousands of cases.

Their idea clearly is to get students intermindle and get to herd immunity, but not go to bars to avoid infecting older people...

[darmstadt]

[Hobosapien]

Their idea clearly is to get students intermindle and get to herd immunity, but not go to bars to avoid infecting older people...

Much simpler and effective approach would be to raise minimum age for pubs to 30.

Muppets in charge causing more damage than necessary because they didn't use the summer to build more nightingales, so the vast majority of people who don't get seriously ill can live a normal life and there'd be plenty of support for those needing hospital treatment. All those just needing a bit of oxygen like bozo did can get treated at home.

Covidiots are in charge and the sillier the rules and real life impact the less they'll be adhered. Especially when Cummings and Stanley Johnson flout them with no penalty.

[SueEllen]

Much simpler and effective approach would be to raise minimum age for pubs to 30.

Muppets in charge causing more damage than necessary because they didn't use the summer to build more nightingales, so the vast majority of people who don't get seriously ill can live a normal life and there'd be plenty of support for those needing hospital treatment. All those just needing a bit of oxygen like bozo did can get treated at home.

Covidiots are in charge and the sillier the rules and real life impact the less they'll be adhered. Especially when Cummings and Stanley Johnson flout them with no penalty.

The problem is not the number of beds but the lack of staff.

Even before Brexit the NHS had a staffing problem so would recruit from other EU countries as well as further afield to ensure we had some of the nurses and doctors we need but there were still vacancies.

The summer should have been spent allowing councils to sort out track and trace for their area, and then combining with local volunteers to ensure people who had to isolate had food and medicine so had no need to leave their homes. Increasing statutory sick pay for those who had to isolate and then finally enforcing household isolation.

[scooterscot]

The problem is not the number of beds but the lack of staff.

Can hardly complain when the people collectively tell't them to F£$ off back to the EU.

Notwithstanding politics.. one of the NHS Dr's I follow on Youtube confesses most staff now are fatigued, without the adrenaline they had going into the first lockdown. His concern now is they work themselves into the grave whilst the public applaud their efforts outside the front door like it is some sort of badge of honour. Find the applauding to be honest a little weird as do a number of staff - hope it stops. Sister in-law works in the NHS, the opinions seem to be 'we're doing what we're doing because it is necessary' - there's a real out of touch feeling between what I'm hearing from family working in the trenches and those running the country, but I'm sure you all know that.

[Andy2]

They should learn from Taiwan
24 mill population, 451 cases, 7 deaths

free and rapid testing centers
face masks mandatory
contact tracing and quarantine monitoring

[AtW]

They should learn from Taiwan
24 mill population, 451 cases, 7 deaths

free and rapid testing centers
face masks mandatory
contact tracing and quarantine monitoring

But that’s totally infringed their freedoms