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    #41
    AIX and AS/400 are not mainframes I'm afraid, in fact one is an operating system
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    It was an attempt at humour.

    But are you saying buying a disk from the approved supplier like Fujitsu is anywhere the same cost as buying from Insight or similar? If you don't buy from the vendor how does that affect your maintenance?

    The PNC mainframe is a modern one then?

    Buying a server disk from the manufacturer was normally 2+ times the price of buying in channel.

    My experience was with AIX & As400 boxes 10 - 20 years ago, it may have changed since then but I doubt it.
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      #42
      Originally posted by malvolio View Post
      Well yes, very true. That would work really well with a national police database covering everything from ANPR records to anti-terrorism intelligence.
      Govt is big enough of a client to have multiple fully owned secure data centers (not with ancient mainframes either) - it's not like digital storage is something that will disappear anytime soon.

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        #43
        I can still restore data from 10 years ago, you have to remember that these systems have been going for years so their procedures tend to have evolved over time and are pretty failsafe apart from 'between chair and keyboard problem' which seems to have happened here
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        Well I hope you do have backups
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          #44
          You still have no idea what you're talking about do you?
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          Govt is big enough of a client to have multiple fully owned secure data centers (not with ancient mainframes either) - it's not like digital storage is something that will disappear anytime soon.
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            #45
            so who's cat's got the biggest bolloks?



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              #46
              Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
              You still have no idea what you're talking about do you?
              I have good idea how to solve complex large scale data problems without paying King's ransom for it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                AIX and AS/400 are not mainframes I'm afraid, in fact one is an operating system

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                Doh, I know that, however the gouging is apparently the same. As aTw says its peanuts for storage.
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                  I can still restore data from 10 years ago, you have to remember that these systems have been going for years so their procedures tend to have evolved over time and are pretty failsafe apart from 'between chair and keyboard problem' which seems to have happened here

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                  Only 10 years ago? We have 30 years ago.
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                    #49
                    And how many people on here pay massive premium for vendors like IBM alikes if it was their own money vs viable much cheaper alternatives?

                    IBM alikes was ok in 70s, 80s maybe even 90s. but certainly not past 2010

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                      #50
                      What on earth is an IBM alike? Not only do you still don't know what you're talking about, you don't even know what you're writing
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      And how many people on here pay massive premium for vendors like IBM alikes if it was their own money vs viable much cheaper alternatives?

                      IBM alikes was ok in 70s, 80s maybe even 90s. but certainly not past 2010
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