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What do you believe in ?

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    #31
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Oh yes, I remember hope.
    Mine seemed to disappear just after my 50th birthday
    Confusion is a natural state of being

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      #32
      Originally posted by DaveB View Post
      Probably my favorite Christmas song :

      They said there'll be snow at Christmas,
      They said there'll be peace on earth,...

      ...Hallelujah! Noel!, be it Heaven or Hell,
      The Christmas we get, we deserve.
      I like this one, by Christian author Adrian Plass:

      Away in a gutter
      No food and no bed
      The little Lord Jesus
      Hangs down his sweet head
      The stars in the bright sky
      Look down and they say
      The little Lord Jesus
      Is wasting away.

      We love you Lord Jesus
      We hope you survive
      We’ll see you tomorrow
      If you’re still alive
      You won’t live for long now
      With no tender care
      You’re best off in heaven
      We’ll see you up there.

      The darkness is lifting
      The baby awakes
      But little Lord Jesus
      No movement he makes
      No flesh on his body
      No light in his eye
      The little Lord Jesus
      Is going to die.
      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        #33
        The poll sucks. What does "God" mean? The Christian god? Jewish? Both? "God" could normally encompass the main monotheistic religions, including Islam. Better to ask what religion people are.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #34
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          The poll sucks. What does "God" mean? The Christian god? Jewish? Both? "God" could normally encompass the main monotheistic religions, including Islam. Better to ask what religion people are.
          And he missed out Pie and cake
          Confusion is a natural state of being

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            #35
            Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
            Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
            Belief is the acceptance that something is true
            Faith is the unquestioning acceptance that something is true
            According to EOD. But not the OED... well, depening on context.
            For the avoidance of doubt, let's have a look at the OED, shall we? It's not as if it's chained to a shelf in a monastery on a remote island somewhere...
            belief
            noun 1 a feeling that something exists or is true, especially one without proof. 2 a firmly held opinion. 3 (belief in) trust or confidence in. 4 religious faith.
            faith
            noun 1 complete trust or confidence. 2 strong belief in a religion. 3 a system of religious belief.

            Make of that what you will.

            The poll's still rubbish because it fails, as any such poll must, to address the inordinate diversity of things-that-are-believed-in. I'll go for the Andyw option as being the default mechanism for expressing the belief that the poll sucks.

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              #36
              Just got back from the monastery, and boy do my arms ache from all that rowing! Especially as I had to go back for the bolt cutters for the chain.

              My OED says:

              Belief:

              1. Trust, confidence; faith (Followed by in, of a person or thing.
              b) Trust in God; religious faith; acceptance of any received theology
              2. Mental acceptance of a statement, fact, doctrine, thing, etc. as true or existing (Followed by in a thing, in or of a statement etc. that something is the case )

              Faith:

              I. Confidence, belief
              1. Confidence, reliance, belief, esp. without evidence or proof
              b) Belief based on testimony or authority
              2. What is or should be believed; a system of firmly held beliefs or principles: a religion
              3. Belief in the doctrines of a religion
              b) The spiritual apprehension of divine truth or intangible realities
              Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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